That's a good point Bob. The moderators should be a little more active. I posted the Shredder review update, watched it go way off topic and did nothing. I'll be a little more vigilent.
Randy B.
Randy B.
It does sound like censorship, if you don't trust the moderators. My personal notion of product reviews is that I encourage all product comments, positive or negative. It speaks to the integrity of the process. A look at any site that permits product reviews (Amazon, NewEgg, etc.) will show whether or not the reviews are candid. I like to see an occasional trashing of a product I want to purchase, when the other reviews are generally favorable.I also won't tend to trust the evaluations of the machine on this group after all this. it is pretty clear that your right sales pitches for Don or keep your mouth shut.
Daniel,
I'm not sure if you even saw the events leading to this situation, so I'll recap here.
Please don't anyone take this as me looking for pity, because I'm not. I'm going to add some things that haven't been exposed before in hopes we can finally put this issue to rest. I know some of you will view me as a money grubbing capitalist and maybe I am, but it is what it is.
We did the group buy for the shredder. I sold them at $20 over cost, $8.50 of which went to paypal and $3.50 went toward boxes. I charged $20 for shipping (I'm not sure if you saw the actual cost for your shredder, but it was over $30). I also ended up with a shredder myself, but where the true ownership lies is unclear to me. Someone wanted to buy it, but I really can't sell something that isn't mine...technically.
After the shredders were delivered, one of the members started a thread "Let the shredder reviews begin"...or something like that. This thread could have been a great marketing tool (for me) to sell more shredders and actually make a little money on them. Unfortunately, after the second page of comments about shredders, the thread evolved into not less than three pages of off topic discussions IN A ROW.
I've never asked for a dime to help with the cost of the forum. I've come right out and said I do not accept donations, but here was one real opportunity, one that developed as a natural progression of the sites own merits to actually perhaps make a few bucks selling shredders. As I watched the thread deteriorate to resemble nothing even remotely close to the thread title, I got an email. It was from a non-member who wanted some information on the shredder that I have for sale on the whole leaf site. What could have been (should have been) a perfect presentation of what the shredder can do had turned into a mishmash of miscellaneous conversations. I politely directed the customer to the youtube video's.
I thought this would really be just a common sense issue and I assumed everyone would know your grow blogs are YOUR glow blogs, but everyone wants to find fault somewhere in every aspect of trying to get you guys to stay on topic.
I'm sorry, but I'm not backing down from this. You guys can stomp all over each others threads at Roy's site. The only thing you're not allowed to say there is FmGrowit and whole leaf tobacco.com.
Daniel, I sincerely doubt that was the intent from a non partisan viewpoint.All I can say is you won't be seeing my critique of the shredder here anytime soon. Way to sensitive of an issue. I am pretty sure there are at least a few others that won't be sayign much about it here after this either. I don't really care what other concerns you have are. I also won't tend to trust the evaluations of the machine on this group after all this. it is pretty clear that your right sales pitches for Don or keep your mouth shut.
Don, maybe a stay on topic part for the reviews of products and whole leaf but leave the grow blogs to wander? just an idea...
mark
I understand where you're going with this, it's an admirable goal. The search function works well enough to sort through the chaff to find what I was looking for, or not, in my lurker days. The later into the season it gets, it seems to me, the better the questions get and some of the answers are real jewels. The "old hands" are really stepping up to the plate. As a mine-able data base, this site is becoming better every week. I don't think that can ever replace the value of human interaction.
But how would I search for it?
What do you want to search for?