Rolling a cigar with a press

[notcrack]

I've been bouncing around the web looking for good cigar rolling tutorials and I stumbled onto this one.
It is originally in German so bear with the translation, but the pics should help someone.

The poster says that as pressed cigars are so prevalent they need a reliable method on how to finish off the cigar after pressing. For the purpose of this tutorial he has purchased an "egg" shaped press and a "torpedo" shaped press.

Here is a picture of the amount of binder that is required (he doesn't give a specific size) and an added amount of binder leaf on top of that to give the needed reinforcement.

The short filler is then bunched up in hand and laid on top of the binder and you loosely roll the cigar. You must try to keep the roll even as it won't press very well without.

You then place the loosely rolled cigar into the press and close it, then you open it and rotate the cigar and re close the press (You should do this 2-3 times and then finally and securely close the press) and leave it over night.

Once you have removed the cigar the next day you will need to cut the wrapper leaf. (The poster calls it an El-style)

You take the small notch and wrap it around the end of the cigar and then slowly and evenly wrap the leaf around the rest of the cigar.

(Note he then says this and I can't translate it) At the end of the curling arrived again the usual blank for the manufacture of cigars head is necessary.

Now you let the cigar dry for a few days and then enjoy.

Here is the last two steps for the torpedo shaped cigars

 

[notcrack]

 

[Steve2md]

wow! those look exceptionally well done. I wonder how they smoke? I'll have to try it out.....

 

[Knucklehead]

That answers a few of the questions I had on the process. Now I have to order Don's cigar sampler and give it a whirl.

 

[deluxestogie]

Interesting photos, and beautiful cigars.

Though I'm not a big fan of short-filler cigars, they do smoke reasonably well, and provide a path for using large scraps in cigar making. When I roll my scraps, I lay two layers of binder as well, though I prefer a tapered edge to the binder.

A perfecto cigar, with a pointed foot (the lighting end) is fairly challenging to roll smoothly. The secret to avoiding a ruffled fringe at the tapered foot is shown in the photos. I've used the 'S' shaped wrapper cut, though not the tricky 'L' cut. The difficulty is that the curve of the cut depends on the thickness and degree of taper of the foot. Only trial and error will determine the ideal curve for cutting the wrapper. So here, using a mold with a perfecto tip will make reproducing the wrapper cut simpler.

To make these fancy wrapper cuts, the selected wrapper leaf needs to be about 1/3 longer than what is required when not wrapping a perfecto foot.

On the other hand, making beautiful, shaped cigars is an advanced rolling skill. In addition to the wrapping, a cigar roller must acquire a feel for how densely to pack the filler in each zone of the taper, so that it will still draw after it comes out of the press.

I have yet to reliably master rolling a perfecto foot.

Bob

 

[johnlee1933]

I have yet to reliably master rolling a perfecto foot.Bob

Hell, I have yet to reliably master rolling anything ! I even have a problem with snowballs.

John

 

[webmost]

Glad I found this post. I am going to re-wrap some of my WebMost Uppowoc Perfectos with this new pattern wrapper. I'll just wrap right over the other wrap.

 

[deluxestogie]

Don't forget that notcrack uses a perfecto shaped cigar mold to get these slick results, and with short filler, which is easier to shape. Making the beauty more than skin deep is pretty tricky with long filler. Just last night, I smoked a small perfecto from Arturo Fuente--surely the home some master rollers. Half-way through the cigar, it began to irreparably burn down the side.

It's definitely fun to try rolling these. I'll keep practicing.

Bob

 

[webmost]

Nah, I don't buy that at all. I thought it would be difficult to shape the filler and get the binder right. But it turned out to be a snap. Took me maybe three cigars out of the ten before I got the hang of it. Those first three, I did have to unbind and pinch some out of the ends into the middle. After that, easy street. Consistency feels good. Long filler all. No prob. Maybe I'll break one out tonight and see how it burns. Maybe I'll have patience and wait a week.

 

[rainmax]

I make four cigars today and smoked all four. I just make some practice with my tobacco until I get some from Don.
First three cigars I made from unprocessed leaf and last one with my kilned tobacco, one leaf of Nicaraguan ligero from Wallace and also binder Bezuki I get from Wallace (thank you once more time). Difference between all cigars was obvious. If you only look at the ash and burn you'll know what I'm talking about. All four cigars was surprisingly good, but last one I smoke down to the but. I burn my fingers. Bezuki is great.
I didn't use wrapper and I make book style as I saw from the guy on the video. I forget that I like cigars. Only with the second cigar i some have problems with draw (I forget to took a picture). To wet tobacco and too much press. After I get back in feeling and make perfect cigars. If I had time I would put wrapper on but I also realize that is unnecessarily. Waste of time and good tobacco.

 

[deluxestogie]

Nah, I don't buy that at all. I thought it would be difficult to shape the filler and get the binder right. But it turned out to be a snap.

Congratulations on your success.

Bob

 

[Knucklehead]

Nice looking cigars, Maks. You'll like Don's Viso and Seco better than the Ligero. It is some really premium leaf. You should also give the Maduro wrappers a try. He is now out of Bezuki. I personally like the Maduro as much or more than the Bezuki.

 

[rainmax]

I have already order from Don. Three wrappers, viso and ligero. I found out that no seco for me. Maybe next happy new year.

 

[Knucklehead]

I have already order from Don. Three wrappers, viso and ligero. I found out that no seco for me. Maybe next happy new year.

Which wrappers did you get? Also, the Dominican Seco is really nice.

 

[ChuckP]

Great Job NotCrack! Nice looking figaro's! I'll have to dig my mold out and give it another try in the next couple of weeks.

 

[MarcL]

I really like this. I just thought I would link the original. 

German > > http://www.tabakanbau-forum.de/viewtopic.php?t=2934

Translated to English > > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.tabakanbau-forum.de/viewtopic.php%

 

[jekylnz]

I really like this. I just thought I would link the original. 

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Cheers bro

 

[MarcL]

Cheers

 

[webmost]

Re-reading this post, I was tickled by this bit: "At the end of the curling arrived again the usual blank for the manufacture of cigars head is necessary." That's almost as clear as mud.

 

[Southern Planter]

How does the press work? Like a mold, or are the cigars rolled in that wooden thingy?