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    redneck grower Chicken's Avatar
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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    very informative thread indeed.

    i delivered a load of fertilizer, to a peanut farm, and they had thier float trays, from the watermelons, in the '' SCRAP PILE, so i grabbed me 5 of them,

    they look like they hold 100+ seedlings,

    plenty for what i do,<!!!!!

    so next year, im gonna be doing the float tray system

    i figure, i can either build a water box, or, get a '' kiddie pool'' and let them float in it,????

    i gotta come up, with a redneck idea, to make the water system?????
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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    Chicken, Make sure you sanitize those trays real good. Farmers usually throw them away after a few years because the Styrofoam really holds on to bacteria etc. You can Google the best way to do it. One of the usual recommendations is to soak them in a Clorox/water solution. I use peroxide. Another thing to remember when working with float trays is to never let them touch the soil. When you go to transplant next year, set the tray on a piece of wood or tarp... and keep them out of the sun so they so not degrade. Also, make sure you use a "soiless mix" that has been discussed before. Something like peat, pearlite and vermiculite.

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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    i didnt google it, but i went on you-tube, and YAHOO,

    but didnt get much info,

    i kinda wish i'd have grabbed about 5-10 more of them<

    but the '' empty'' trailer will be there. to be picked up, or perhaps, i'll visit there again,???

    but i got 5... and those will work perfect<
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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    Try this.... http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/id/id132/id132.htm

    You also might want to start looking for a DIST-4 meter. You use this to make sure you are adding the correct amount of fert to your water solution. I tested 3 different brands of fert this past spring. Miracle Grow, Peter's and I forgot the 3rd one. All 3 said to add 1 Tablespoon per gallon water. When I did that, my meter almost went off the scale and was way higher than the levels recommended by the Ag people. According to my meter, the proper fert level is 1 teaspoon per gallon. I do not know what would have happened if I used the tablespoon dose though. One more thing, start looking for a water soluble 20-10-20 type fert that contains micronutrients and does NOT contain urea... hard to come by these days.

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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    is that the same type, of meter, that you use to check the water, on a hydrophonic system?

    did you try your floats?

    and how did they work for you?

    i cant afford a failure, i know i can grow them sucessfully with plastic trays,

    new things like this allways spook me, because i know, if i dont dial in the fert's in the water, it aint going to work, and possiblly kill everything...

    i may do a experiment with just one tray,,

    or possiblly just use the float tray,,,, as a normal seedling tray,???
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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    This year I didn't use a float tray system, but a wick type. The trays were 72 cell, each cell was 1 1/2" square by a little over 2" deep, the medium was 50/50 peat/vermiculite. I was focusing on Flue Cured type tobacco and used this guide for how much of what to put in the water.

    http://ipm.ncsu.edu/Production_Guide...flue_cured.pdf

    The amounts were small, so I used a reloading scale with units in Grains and figured everything in Gr (Grains) / Gallon of water. The materials I used were pretty off the wall, but the recipe worked well for me.

    13.6 Gr Miracle-Gro 18-18-21

    12.7 Gr Grant's stump remover (Potassium Nitrate 13-0-46)

    8.8 Gr Ammonium Nitrate (From instant cold packs)

    17.5 Gr Epsom salts

    1.1 Gr Borax

    At four weeks, I gave them 15.7 Gr/Gal of Ammonium Nitrate. I was using a Gallon per tray and would add water to a mark on the bottom trays to make up for evaporation. I started the seeds on plain water and added the fertilizer mix after a week.

    It all worked well for me, the only thing I'm changing next year is to get deeper growing trays.

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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    ive allways shyed away from doing anything hydrophonically,

    i am more of a soil type person,

    im gonna use the trays, as if they were plastic dirt trays,

    and grow them the way i normally do, using soil,

    ..allthough i will use them,, it's just everytime i hear about hydro growing,

    it just put's me in left field, i cant get a concept, on the idea???
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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    Chicken, I had trouble getting my head around a lot of this hydroponics at first. But there a tons of videos on youtube (mainly mary Jane growers) showing set ups and plans/diagrams of set ups. Some look complex and offers look a piece of cake. Im gonna be using the ebb and flow/flood and drain system myself next year as its the easiest to set up, plus im only growing around 50 plants its the most cost effective as i have most of the stuff needed from my old fish tank.
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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken View Post
    is that the same type, of meter, that you use to check the water, on a hydrophonic system?

    did you try your floats?

    and how did they work for you?

    ?
    I'm not sure if hydroponics uses the same type meter but they probably do. It's a Total Dissolved Solids Meter (TDS).
    Yes I used my float tray last year. The only problem I had if you want to call it a problem is my plants grew extremely fast. It seemed I was clipping them every other day. I used the 72 cell tray and couldn't imagine using anything bigger like a 200 cell.

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    Re: Tell me about float tray systems

    i took a pic of the float trays i got,

    but right now, im loading my kiln, and taking a break,

    stepping in there, is like being in a jungle,

    im colling off, and drinking a cold one,

    the kiln is impressive, you'll have to wait for the pics.

    i have designed the perfect tobacco barn.
    for flue -curing baccy
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