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This thread is an effort to evaluate your results (germination, successful transplant) of FTT Seed Bank varieties grown for seed replenishment. It's not about distribution logistics.

Some of the seed varieties that have been in greatest need of replenishment are represented by seed that may be fairly old. Even seed that was sent directly from ARS-GRIN may have been as old as 10 years at the time it was shipped from ARS-GRIN. Within the FTT Seed Bank list, varieties listed in red, with or without an asterisk, are the varieties of interest in this thread.

If you have received seed from FTT for seed bank replenishment, please list the variety (complete name, number, etc.) and your germination results: none, poor, moderate, good (and indicate current days). Enter your list now, and again if the results have changed. If seedlings germinate, and reach transplant stage, then please list them again with these results.

deluxestogie's grow-outs:
Córdoba: batch 1 - none @ 21 days; batch 2 - none @ 12 days; batch 3 - none at 1 day
Hoja Parada: batch 1 - none @ 21 days; batch 2 - none @ 12 days; batch 3 - none at 1 day
Criollo Salteño: batch 1 - none @ 21 days; batch 2 - none @ 12 days; batch 3 - none at 1 day
Lattaquie 92: batch 1 - none @ 21 days; batch 2 - none @ 12 days; batch 3 - none at 1 day

Bob

EDIT: Successes as of 4/8/13, 8:52 pm
  • Shirey: DonH
  • Trabzon: leverhead
  • Samsun Canic: leverhead
  • Basma: leverhead
  • Kavala: leverhead
  • Stamm 161 TI 379 PI 405520 [@ 16 days] 5 seedlings: BarG
  • Dawma TI 170 PI 405007 [@ 16 days] 3 seedlings: BarG
  • Katsuyama TI 163 PI 405000 [@ 12 days] 1 seedling!: BarG
  • Forcheimer TI 1486 PI 405680 [@ 22 days] 1 seedling: BarG
  • Poquonock : grgfinney
  • Ergo [@ 14 days] 4 seedlings: grgfinney
  • Higo [@ 14 days] 3 seedlings: grgfinney
 
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Knucklehead grow outs: 3 varieties, 3 starting methods, 4 locations :
Mississippi Heirloom TI 1716 : 5 days: no starts
Lonibow TI 1613 : 5 days: no starts
Cordoba TI 197 : 5 days: no starts
 

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IndianJoe's grow-outs, no numbers, just varieties sent
Lonibow: 17 days, not starts
Cordoba: 17 days, no starts
Mississippi Heirloom: 17 days, no starts
Dixie Bright: 17 days, no starts
5-11
After 17 days, no results. Seeds were divided into two groups, along with other seeds as controls. Controls germinated after 5-11 days. IndianJoe's grow-out results ended.
 
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These were requested varieties, not specifically for grow out. The names are what's on the envelope.

Adiyaman - only 1 batch - none in 23 days
Trabzon - batch 1 - 6 in 23 days, 25 seeds remaining
Samsun Canic - batch 1 - 6 in 23 days, 30 seeds remaining
Basma - batch 1 - 9 in 23 days, 20 seeds remaining
Kavala - batch 1 - 23 in 23 days, 120 seeds remaining

Some of these are mentioned twice in the list, so I listed them anyway. I'll use up remaining seed if these fail.
 

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Results from first try with about 1/3 of seeds 3-6-13 [best guess on days to germinate]

Most recent EDIT 4-11-13

Stamm 161 cigar filler TI 379 PI 405520.....germination in 16 days --[Edit 9 seedlings]

Dawma cigar filler TI 170 PI 405007...........germination in 16 days--[Edit 7 seedlings]

Forcheimer Cigar filler TI 1486 PI 405680....germination in 22 days [Edit-- 9 seedling]

Katsuyama cigar filler TI 163 PI 405000......germination in 12 days--1 seedling
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Second attempt with another 1/3 seeds started 3-21-13 reseeded in same starting containers. I will use new containers for third attempt.

Final batch started 3-31-13 in fresh containers.

Note for grinn envelopes.; When planting last of seeds make sure to carefully slice open envelope to find the 10-15 seeds hidden in the folds. I did my last seeding by opening over a clean piece of white paper and discovered at least that many in each envelope after slicing and carefully peeling open. each envelope easily had more than a hundred seeds and the last seeding was about 1/3 of supply+.
 
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I am growing two varieties for the FTT seed bank they have only been in for 4 days Two batches of each

Cordoba 112164 TI 197 4 Days 0% Germination
Nacional 113672 TI 480 4 Days 0% Germination
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Also doing a grow out for another member of 2 varieties of Primitive Tobacco

116087 TI 712 21 days 8 seedlings (note poor germination rate)
405535 TI 751 21 days 9 seedlings (note poor germination rate)
 

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Knucklehead grow outs: 3 varieties, 3 starting methods, 4 locations :
Mississippi Heirloom TI 1716 : 10 days: no starts
Lonibow TI 1613 : 10 days: no starts
Cordoba TI 197 : 10 days: no starts
 

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Thanks Bob. We can use that list to scour sources for replacement. I could swear I saw Miss. Heirloom for sale somewhere but I can't seem to relocate the source now.

I've bought some seed that aren't in the seed list, I'll be growing out those for donation.

I don't know where I posted it, but it appears the comment has not been read. These are not the only seeds of their type. Some have been grown out already. Guys...please...I just finished moving my warehouse and setting everything up. I've been working 12 hours and more a day, 7 days a week to make the move before my deadline. The seed distribution could not have come at a worse time, but I did my best. I have to make a living while processing seed orders also.

I don't have time to catalog the seeds right now. I believe there is Mississippi Heirloom that has been grown out. I also believe there are many others. I should have time in the next 6 - 8 weeks to get the seed bank in order. I hate to see you guys spinning your wheels for nothing, but if you want to locate any/all of the varieties that have failed to germinate on the above list...that's up to you.
 

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Poquonock 24 seed started 7days-4 seedlings.Ergo 7days-0.higo 7days-0 started more of each 3-31 I received ytb with grow out seed i will be bagging that also 95% germinated @ 4 days
 

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Knucklehead grow outs: 3 varieties, 3 starting methods, 4 locations :
Mississippi Heirloom TI 1716 : 10 days: no starts
Lonibow TI 1613 : 10 days: no starts
Cordoba TI 197 : 10 days: no starts


Are you keeping them warm . Room temperature may make the germinate slowly .
Above a warn , heater is best , sun or no sun . But Not extremely hot heater
 

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This thread is not intended as a lamentation. It's just to collect data. In a few weeks, we'll have a better handle on which varieties germinated and which did not. [Data are like weather. There's snow, rain, hail, sunshine. There's no good weather or bad weather.]

Bob
 

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Up Date for my grow outs

Cordoba 112164 TI 197 16 Days 0% Germination
Nacional 113672 TI 480 16 Days 0% Germination

Both methods have not germinated I will be keeping the going for another 14 days
 

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Howdy Y'all!

Here's my results so far:

No. 3732 - 1st Batch: 3 starts @ 32 days; 2nd Batch: Nothing @ 1 week.
Long Red - 1st Batch: Nothing@ 32 Days; 2nd Batch: Nothing @ 1 week. Batch 2 is from seedman.com
Lizard Tail x Turtlefoot - 1st Batch: Nothing @ 32 days; 2nd Batch: Nothing @ 1 week

PS - I also bought some Hungurian Red Leaf seeds from seedman. Sounded interesting.
 
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