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There is something about the taste of Virginia tobacco and hot sweaty weather... the lightness and sweet melon/citrus taste is O so perfect after a hot day in the sun... prior to WLT's fantastic whole leaf, I reserved very expensive flake pipe tobaccos for this pleasure, pedestrian RYO/MYO Virginia tobaccos did not cut it... just enjoyed a blend of the Bright and Red... had to tell you about it... sidelining the burleys till the autumn chill rolls in. Made in the shade... :)
 

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There is something about the taste of Virginia tobacco and hot sweaty weather... the lightness and sweet melon/citrus taste is O so perfect after a hot day in the sun... prior to WLT's fantastic whole leaf, I reserved very expensive flake pipe tobaccos for this pleasure, pedestrian RYO/MYO Virginia tobaccos did not cut it... just enjoyed a blend of the Bright and Red... had to tell you about it... sidelining the burleys till the autumn chill rolls in. Made in the shade... :)
Enjoy man. That's why we're all here.
 

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Orgasms should be posted in the "Off Topic" thread. LOL

Damn close... smoking another... this time rolled with Bright leaf wrap... ciggy style... two of these in a row would qualify as "Off Topic"... if I could last that long... insert 70's style porn music... :cool:
 

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I think at least 1/2 of mine is Virg. Didnt plan it that way its just how it turned out but Im good with it. Next year I got to have more Nic.
 

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I think at least 1/2 of mine is Virg. Didnt plan it that way its just how it turned out but Im good with it. Next year I got to have more Nic.
Try the African Red. It's a flue cured variety with massive amounts of nicotine. I started some this year and they are doing very well.

Del Gold also has high nicotine but not as much as African Red.
 

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I need a high nic. for next year. Somethin that will turn my stomach.
I'll send you some seeds for next year of the African Red if I get some. And some leaves, too. If the nic levels are as high as they say it may be too much for me. Supposedly it's double what the stronger Rusticas have.
 

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Damn close... smoking another... this time rolled with Bright leaf wrap... ciggy style... two of these in a row would qualify as "Off Topic"... if I could last that long... insert 70's style porn music... :cool:

hey bud I tried a couple of different ways of rolling today. reg by hand like I did the other day and also used a 110mm roller and leaf came out more like a reg cig but no filter and burley rid tips as a wrap still havent changed the blend either bright leaf and burley or pure bright leaf .woohoo still liking it. more ciggys less reg cigs
 

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African Red has a nicotine content of 2.9%. It's more than double what most Virgina Golds have, but less nicotine than Rusticas have. It has a flavor similar to VG and is mild to smoke. The plant has a tall columnar form with closely spaced light green leaves and takes about 70 days to mature. It air cures to a light yellow / brown with a touch of red to it. African Red is one of my favorite tobaccos. The first year I grew it I had 36 plants. Last year I had 70. This year I have 120 of them. :)

Delgold has a nic content of between 3-4%. It is one of the highest nicotine content bright leafs. It is a good producer of large light green leaf and matures in 70 days, and does well in northern latitudes. It air cures to a light brown and makes a very mild smoke. It is a very good cigarette tobacco. Some folks like it alone, but I prefer it mixed with a little Burley for a bit more flavor.

Another one I really like a lot is a bright leaf called Costello Negro, or just Costello. It originated in Columbia and was brought to the US in the 60's. It grows to 5'-6' in height in an inverted cone form, and has densely packed leaves up the stalk. The leaves are a darker green color than most bright leafs and air cure to a very light reddish brown. It matures in around 65 days and can take a bit of frost in the fall without much harm. It has a nic content of 2.4% and is mild to smoke. It's flavor is similar to other bright leafs but with perhaps a bit of nuttiness to it. I really like it, on its own or in a blend. It cures easily when primed or when cut and hung whole. It's one of the few bright leafs I have found that does cure well when hung whole, even late in the season. I have 120 Costellos growing this year.
 

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I'm thinking the African red would be great for snuff. Where was this post when I was making my selections for this year?
Try the African Red. It's a flue cured variety with massive amounts of nicotine. I started some this year and they are doing very well.

Del Gold also has high nicotine but not as much as African Red.
 

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African Red has a nicotine content of 2.9%. It's more than double what most Virgina Golds have, but less nicotine than Rusticas have. It has a flavor similar to VG and is mild to smoke. The plant has a tall columnar form with closely spaced light green leaves and takes about 70 days to mature. It air cures to a light yellow / brown with a touch of red to it. African Red is one of my favorite tobaccos. The first year I grew it I had 36 plants. Last year I had 70. This year I have 120 of them. :)

Delgold has a nic content of between 3-4%. It is one of the highest nicotine content bright leafs. It is a good producer of large light green leaf and matures in 70 days, and does well in northern latitudes. It air cures to a light brown and makes a very mild smoke. It is a very good cigarette tobacco. Some folks like it alone, but I prefer it mixed with a little Burley for a bit more flavor.

Another one I really like a lot is a bright leaf called Costello Negro, or just Costello. It originated in Columbia and was brought to the US in the 60's. It grows to 5'-6' in height in an inverted cone form, and has densely packed leaves up the stalk. The leaves are a darker green color than most bright leafs and air cure to a very light reddish brown. It matures in around 65 days and can take a bit of frost in the fall without much harm. It has a nic content of 2.4% and is mild to smoke. It's flavor is similar to other bright leafs but with perhaps a bit of nuttiness to it. I really like it, on its own or in a blend. It cures easily when primed or when cut and hung whole. It's one of the few bright leafs I have found that does cure well when hung whole, even late in the season. I have 120 Costellos growing this year.

Thanks, Sky, I was hoping you'd weigh in on this, especially on how they taste. I must have been confused when I thought that African Red had more nicotine than Del Gold.

I went back to the listings on Sustainable Seed Co. to see where I got that from and I think it was because they list the nicotine content of African Red, but not that of Del Gold. Here are their descriptions:

Del Gold:

Bred in Canada around 1980 by crossing wild tobacco (N. rustica) with two popular American tobacco varieties, Hicks Broadleaf tobacco and Virginia 115 tobacco. This cross produced a plant that was a high-yielding, high-nicotine cultivar that was widely adopted by growers. Delgold tobacco is still considered one of the better yielding flue-cured varieties available on the market today. Giant 6-8' tobacco with leaves over 18" long and 12". Delgold just kept coming every time I would cut it. Soft pink flowers. I was shocked at this tobaccos frost tolerance, but then again I got the original seed stock from Canada. This tobacco variety works well for us on the West Coast because it will perform in our cool weather. (2010 update. We have 12' tall plants growing now that have gone through a week of night time freezing lows that have burned our citrus trees, but not this tobacco. Truthly I'm a bit stunned!)

African Red:

African Red is a bright leaf variety with light green colored leaves and white stemmed.
A vigorous grower reaching 8 feet (200cm) in height at the first crows foot.
Plant form is columnar. Average size of 10th leaf at maturity 28 inches (60cm).
Leaf width 12" (25cm) 28 leaves total on un-topped plants, not including bed leaves. Matures in 80 days.
Has a high nicotine content, averaging 29.8 mg/g of dried leaf.
Original seed donated to the USDA from Transvaal, South Africa in 1975.

ars-grin.gov PI 420191
Extremely Rare. Very Limited Supply This Year.

Anyway, I have both growing this year.
 

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I can't say about Yellow Orinoco. I grew the original Orinoco two years ago, which was imported from Java Indonesia in 1927. It has a nicotine content of 4.27%. It grew to over 6 feet in height and had leaves averaging about 10" x 24", but they were fairly widely spaced up the stalk. Not the heaviest producer I ever grew, but it is classified as a primitive type and not a cultivar. The flavor is similar to dark Virginians and it makes a great blend for a fuller flavor cigarette with some kick. It's pretty good on its own too, but the nicotine is high enough for even me to notice, and I can smoke just about anything. This year I have some Gold Leaf Orinoco growing, which may also be classified as a primitive type. Dunno what it will turn out like. Maybe next year I'll try the Yellow.
 

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BOBORO sent me some green leaf, of the ornico,,, i liked it a lot, it cured very nicelly,
 

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...."Extremely Rare. Very Limited Supply This Year."....

Yeah, that's cos I am the only one growing it and they bought all I had. lol It has a pretty long time to maturity at 70-80 days and needs even longer than most varieties do to finish filling out the seed heads. I have a somewhat difficult time getting any quantities of good seed from it. Last year frost hit hard and early here and the heads had a lot of immature seed in them. The germ test came back pretty low, so I pulled it from my seed list and didn't sell any of the 2012 seed. This year I started the plants earlier, and planted it in a less frost prone spot. And it's at a different location by itself where it can open pollinate. Out of 120 plants, I will save seed only from the earliest maturing plants which are otherwise true to form. Hopefully by doing this, in 4-5 years I can shave 10 days off its time to maturity and make African Red a little more friendly to us northern tier growers. :)
 
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