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Moshe Kassirer

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So after i saw BigDog roller. I turned on :rolleyes:

a whole day of thinking about it. 2 hours of searching in the garbage area. and then 3 hours of building.

I use pieces of boards, an axises from old printer and 2 pieces of irrigation pipe and piece of leather.

Its working nice, i'll roll with it just the scraps i believe.

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binder
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and a finised Robusto (with wrapper)
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Yeah, it does look like an oversized cigarette roller ... and adapting that principle to roll cigars seems ingenious. It also looks like it would be an inexpensive device to make.
 

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The idea came from the cigarette roller, indeed.

I made only one cigar as test. it become a bit loose.
Today i made another one, pushing more tobbaco inside. and its firm.
I'll smoke it just in 2 weeks.
so i'll update.
 

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I like it..nice and simple...just needs some fine tuning...if you have different slots it would give you optional cigar sizes I've been making one similar for a while. .but it still needs tweaking. ..I'm looking at putting cogs in combination with a handle to turn so the rollers turn together. ..Been takn apart old pasta machine to selvedge parts...trying to get my engineer mate to lend me his expertise. .lol
 

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yes its simple and its working fine.
Im rolling it with my two full hands on the cylinders like Rolling dough.

I like the size of 5/50 cigars (robusto)
the machine is 8/50 but im filling it just for 5', more or less, and cut the edges.
 

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There is a trait of the style of roller. If you keep rolling before you put the wrapper in, it will get tighter. Sometimes too tight to draw.
 

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Im rolling the tobacco before puting the binder. and its become tight, I hope not too tight.
My main problem with my cigar so far is the density, not enough tight. I believe its also the quality of the leaves.
 

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Im rolling the tobacco before puting the binder. and its become tight, I hope not too tight.
My main problem with my cigar so far is the density, not enough tight. I believe its also the quality of the leaves.

Here is a link to common cigar sizes:

Cigar sizes


Knucks found me a better link but it is no longer active.

A small digital scale helped me a lot. I found the size cigar I wanted to make and its finished weight and used this to weigh out my tobacco, then roll to the finished size as close as I can, even if after weighing the filler appears to be too much or too little. Uniformity of draw got a lot better for me with this method.

Also try different bunching methods. Rolling the filler to shape tends (for me) to result in the draw being too tight. I get beter result by piling my filler leaves to the length I want then "scrunching" them into a rough shape/size instead of rolling. There are some good videos on youtube if you search "book rolling cigar"; another effective method of bunching your filler.
 

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This is a good idea DGBAMA. to weight the tobbaco befoer - helping by this link.

Is "scrunching" is like in the book-method? I should try it.

Thank you.
 

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like book method in the idea. Objective is to not have leaves "nest" into eachother while rough shaping. multiple leaves that layer against eachother while rolling essentially creates a very thick leaf with no air channels between layers which inhibits good draw and burning. I'm no expert, just sharing my limited experience.
 

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Maybe this is my solution. till now i was rolled each filler leaf and then bunching them together, like the old school Cuba style.
i'll try the book methoud soon, its look like a more flatten method.
 
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