I use the supermatic machines they tend to pack them good. The ones I have were actually made in Canada they are the best.I have when I first started making my own. Way too expensive. At first I liked them. I soon noticed a harsh taste that came from their plant based paper. Also with most cigarette tubes they make their filters too short. This creates a soft spot in the rolled cigarette. Packing hard can help but also jam machine. I now only use Shargio tubes. 20MM filter and this problem is solved. I have 7 unopened boxes of Cartel.