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jeapadrenaline

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Thanks wazz. I dont think watering os the problem, i believe ota the temperatures as of late. I have some of my plants in a makeshift greenhouse attached to my home, its heated through a window from my living quarters, those plants are doing a lot better. But living off grid and with space being restricted it provides for more challenges than if i lived in town. But i plan on being better set up next year.
As for purchasing leaves, that's currently not in the picture, being on social assistance due to health problems. But one day i may just somehow swing it to make a purchase, just to see what other strains are like to decide what to grow next season.
 

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^^^^^^

that sounds like a excellent descision,

best to sample it before you grow it,

yet im growing many strains, i have no idea what they are like,????
 

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^^^
Lol chicken. I a doing the same. 10 varieties rhis year and no idea what to expect.
Virginia bright leaf - seedgnome
Pennsilvania red - skychaser
Little dutch - skychaser
Havanna - coconutmonkey
connecticut - coconutmonkey
harrow velvet - skychaser
Aztec rustica - skychaserx
Virginia - coconutmonkey
Huge leaf - seedgnome
and the finalist is an unknown strain from thailand. Ebay special 1.5 grams of seeds for 3 bucks incl. Shipping. Was my first seed purchase.
 

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It might be kinda fun, but so is fishing! It never bothered me to throw the guts, bones and skins in the garden I guess the ribs of tobacco are about the same to me

A warning to anyone reading this and thinking of just letting there scraps and waste rot in their tobacco patch. I saw in at least one video that growers will not leave the broken leaf pieces etc in their field to rot. it can get tobacco diseases started. As DeluxStogie mentioned. Burn them and return them to the patch as ashes. I just would not want a bunch of folks coming up with some disease next year cause they just let the stems and ribs compost right in the soil.
 

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Thanks wazz. I dont think watering os the problem, i believe ota the temperatures as of late. I have some of my plants in a makeshift greenhouse attached to my home, its heated through a window from my living quarters, those plants are doing a lot better. But living off grid and with space being restricted it provides for more challenges than if i lived in town. But i plan on being better set up next year.
As for purchasing leaves, that's currently not in the picture, being on social assistance due to health problems. But one day i may just somehow swing it to make a purchase, just to see what other strains are like to decide what to grow next season.


if you are currently buying cigs, for less than the price of a carton ($70-80) you can buy 3-1/2 lbs. you should be able to get close to two cartons per lb. so 6 or 7 cartons. i know it might be a lot up front, but then you can go quite a while without spending.

also as for your plants, you could try asking in the how to grow tobacco area. im a newbie so i cant help too much, but these guys know a lot that could help you.
 

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I've had the Gambler Tubes & they were pretty good, didn't rip out on me. also Shargio red tubes, king size. dunno who makes'em or where they are. they're okay as well.
 
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windsail prestige tubes are what i smoke on a daily basis, excellent burn and hardly any paper taste, unlike the premiers......I was thinking of finding some hemp tubes to see if they lend a more neutral flavor so just the tobacco flavor comes out.....
 

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HEY.......You were paying attentionI use them because they are the cheapest I can get.$1.69 a box or 17 cents a pack or 0.845 a cigarette less than a penny there is 200 per box
Available on-line? I'm in Maryland and the most prevalent brands available are Top, Ziggy, Premier, and Gambler, with Premier being the least, although marginally so, expensive - unless you have a carton coupon from Gambler - which typically puts them in the ball park (about $2.25 a carton). I did stop in a shop in Delaware while vacationing and managed to get a deal on a bundle of ten cartons of Premier tubes for $1.75, but they'll hunt you down and publicly execute you here if the State Revenuers find out.
A warning to anyone reading this and thinking of just letting there scraps and waste rot in their tobacco patch. I saw in at least one video that growers will not leave the broken leaf pieces etc in their field to rot. it can get tobacco diseases started. As DeluxStogie mentioned. Burn them and return them to the patch as ashes. I just would not want a bunch of folks coming up with some disease next year cause they just let the stems and ribs compost right in the soil.
Ditto that. Tomatoes and tobacco both can be effected by leaving trimmings and dead tissue lying about. Tobacco mosaic virus is also easily transmitted from one group of plants to the other, so it's always a good practice to try and wash your hands at the very least, and visit each patch wearing completely different sets of clothing and shoes if at all possible. Example - walking the garden picking suckers off of tomato plants is something that we have always been careful to avoid even something as seemingly innocent as after smoking a cig, since the virus can apparently even still be present in commercially processed smokes. Don't know how accurate that information is, but we've never had any problems with TMV whereas most everybody around us has. We do a lot of composting here, and keep some good hot piles going pretty much all of the time, but I'd still be a little leery of relying on that alone to kill the virus (which is apparently just about everywhere around here) in case part of the pile doesn't get hot enough to do the job. Can't burn here, so I don't know exactly what I'll have to do other than haul it off to the dump. As for what they use in the crappy Yobama cigs... my guess was pencil sharpening shavings. How else could they manage to get Marlboro to taste like that? ;)
 

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I use Gambler 100s $12 for a 5 pack. I'm satisfied with'im but would like to try others if I coukd get them on line if ya'll got 1 thats good.
 

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anyone know of good short tubes? i used to smoke laramie shorts(68 mm), but they have been discontinued. i tried rayo shorts and realized i was tasting more bleach than tobacco.

also, does anyone have a good online source? by good i mean cheap and good quality.
 

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Figure I'd pipe in here.

My 3 best sellers are as follows:

1) Gambler Tube Cut
2) Premier
3) Shargio


I've just started carrying Shargio and @$1.99/box retail they are fast approaching the #2 position.

I saw someone mention they didn't know who made Shargio. They are produced by Inter-Continental Trading out of Ohio, the same manufacturer of OHM Pipe Tobacco which coincidentally is my biggest seller. One nice thing about Shargio's is they have a full 20mm filter whereas other manufacturers are much shorter. The downside to this is that on any typical cig machine you will get excess tobacco protruding from the end of your tube after injection.

Customers tend to tell me that Premier tear the easiest, and their menthol tubes like to slide off the machine prematurely from time to time.
 

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Gizeh Silver tip Extra - 25 mm filter (long and smooth) This long filter displaces a lot of tobacco and smooths out the smoke perfectly. This is a high quality tube from France, best I have ever used. I also loved the 72mm Laramie tubes too! I get the tubes from Lil Brown smoke shack.

Smokesec - Where is your shop?
 

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My favorites so far are Zen, Zig Zags, and Rizla. I don't care for the taste of Premier and the "light" Gamblers have annoying holes in the filters that take in too much air. The ones I like are in shorter supply in the stores lately, I've noticed. I hate to do it but I may have to buy online. The tobacco shop nearest me only carried Zig Zag 100s and I don't like 100s (they are too big and don't fit in my case) and the clerk said they don't sell and they won't carry them. The rest of what they carried was tons of Premier and Gambler. I would prefer to support local brick and mortar merchants but if this is their idea of customer service...
 

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Figure I'd pipe in here.

My 3 best sellers are as follows:

1) Gambler Tube Cut
2) Premier
3) Shargio


Customers tend to tell me that Premier tear the easiest, and their menthol tubes like to slide off the machine prematurely from time to time.

No matter the tube I believe most people are using one version or another of an injector type. The tobacco case has alot to do with the ease of injecting, and quality of smoke. I give premier a good review for the 30 or 40 cartons I've used.I had maybe a couple dozen cigs split on me, usualy to lite case and over packing. As for taste the paper seemed light or thin enough to not take away from what was inside. I used the regular king size with the small filter.
 

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I would prefer to support local brick and mortar merchants but if this is their idea of customer service...

As a "brick and mortar" merchant I understand what you're saying, but it really comes down to the bottom line. You see, many distributors/wholesalers have minimum order quantities. IE - they may have to order an entire case, which isn't conducive if they are only going to sell one or two cartons per week.

If you're financially able, I would suggest talking to the manager/owner about a special order for perhaps an entire case of the tubes you like. I'm willing to bet they'd be receptive to that. I do it all the time for products I do not normally stock.
 
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