KNUCKLEHEAD: I have Habana 2000 seed, to look at the history of Havana 2000 its a later version of habano 2000 I got it from to different growers, one of em is for shore Habana 2000 the second one look just the same to me, If you going to grow Habano 2000 can I send you some Habana 2000 if you want..Mine is thin, flexible, stretchy, and with small veins. It's good stuff. I still have to try the Habano 2000 so I can't make that comparison.