Shundahai
Well-Known Member
I will also have some seed for you this fall.
That's mighty generous of you, Thanks!
I will also have some seed for you this fall.
For the OP...
I had gotten seed from Lonnie, back when... He grew Havana 142, and claimed it as a preference if he were to make a standalone choice.
I've also gotten seed from a number of the other good ole boys in Tennessee, who sent me Lonnie's Havana.
I never did a side by side comparison test, growing, or burning... with them, or the Havana 608, or Havana 2000.
Still, I would suspect Lonnie's Havana is same as Havana 142.
Don or JBD might have insight into that time period.
Good luck
rc
More accurate would be "Unidentified-but-probably-some-Havana-type." If you do grow it, and save the seed, call it "Lonnie's Havana."So it's an Unidentified-But-Probably-Havana 142 baccy. From what I have read folks seem to like it, that's good enough for me.
I haven't grow Havana 142 (or Lonnie's Havana) but I was thinkingSo it's an Unidentified-But-Probably-Havana 142 baccy. From what I have read folks seem to like it.
Yah, what Bob said...
Back when, the good ole boys didn't seem to be quite so concerned about the fine points of strains, but were happy to exchange seeds that grew particularly well for them.
I've got some labelled as Conrads Huge Leaf. (They are now old, and no telling if I can even germinate them. But I'm studying on that...)
All well and good, among friends !
There are also vendors who put together blends... Cowboy Killer, for example, which was/is a blend of strains.
It would be a bad thing, to make an attempt at identification, and label any subsequent seed with a non-scientific guess.
Integrity... Purity... How are you going to judge it ?
I've bagged concurrent strains properly, early in the season, then discovered the cluster of flowers/pods totally filling a well made home-sewn tuille bag, with bees visiting the outside of the bag in significant numbers... they probably were not successful in gathering pollen, yet some of what they carried probably dropped off onto the plant. How could I have known if there was any compromise ?
How could grin know?
It remains best practice to obtain seed from the best source possible if you are a purist.
Settin' out on the porch, in the evening, with a stogie ??? ...well, I do think climate, soil conditions, and watering will make enough difference in a strain to have many discussions.
Best
rc
Back years ago when I first joined HTGT , I started selling whole leaf tobacco , Lonnie asked me why the Havana strain he had would fall or lean over . I first thought it was weather related or a soil issue .
He sent me some of his Havana seeds for me to grow and see if I could figure out why the plants would crook over .
I always referred to his strain as "Lonnie's Havana" . I gave out seed and plants from his strain and told each person it was Lonnie's Havana .
Lonnie thought it was 142 , to keep my Havana strains separate I named it " Lonnie's Havana "
Like said it was a good leaf to mix in cigarettes . John Lee acquired several pounds of what I had grown and said it was his favorite leaf to use in his cigars .
I know I still have some of it around some where .
When I grew a good quarter acre of it , the plants would crook over . Not all of them but about every one did have some crook to them . I have picture of the Havana at the outside of the rows , but the crooks was similar all through the patch . My other tobacco planted in rows beside the Havana was straight with no crooks at all .
First picture is Green Briar Burley , the second is Lonnie's Havana .
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