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Are these tobacco beetles? They are not easy to catch. They jump pretty good and hard to kill. Here is a picture of a few dead ones.
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Here is a picture of the damage.
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How do I get rid of them?
 

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Those appear to be flea beetles. [http://www.ipmimages.org/browse/subthumb.cfm?sub=2578&area=62]

A discussion from NCSU: http://tobacco.ces.ncsu.edu/tobacco-pest-management-insects-tobacco-flea-beetle/

For such small plants, you can dust or spray lightly with a preparation of permethrin. By the time harvest begins, the leaf should be safe, though I would be inclined to discard these mud lugs. The pre-harvest interval for permethrin used on vegetables is 1 day. Although I'm not comfortable with that, it does indicate that it is a temporary toxin.

EPA Fact Sheet: http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/reregistration/REDs/factsheets/permethrin_fs.htm

A systemic, like Admire or Othene, used in the production of seedlings, seems to prevent flea beetles, as well as aphids.

I have used permethrin spray on grapes (for Japanese Beetles) and on eggplant (for flea beetles). I notice that the affected insects begin to reappear on the treated plants after 10 to 15 days.

Bob
 

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I sprinkle Diatomaceous Earth on my transplants. It eliminates slug, cut worm and flea beatle damage. After a heavy rain it needs to be reapplied.
 

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Thanks, Bob. It's time to do some research.

I guess I got the answer for why my eggplant did so poorly this year.
 

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I like using diatomacious earth because it is not poisonous or toxic like other products are. I as well have great success with it on all the plants in the garden and flower beds around my dad's. Seems to control everything we've had a problem with.
 

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You should be aware that diatomaceous earth is a significant inhalation hazard--silica dust--especially while you are applying it. I sprinkle it carefully onto the dirt surrounding small seedlings at risk from earwigs. I won't apply it to the tobacco leaf itself. There is no free lunch.

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I never have had a problem with the dust. I treat it like I do lime or sand or for that matter when I mix concrete. I just make sure I do not create a cloud. I sprinkle it onto my transplants. By the time I harvest my leaf there is no residue left.
 

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Here's a typical fact sheet on DE: http://www.deq.state.or.us/er/docs/LowerBridge/DiatomaceousEarthFactSheet.pdf.

If you're a non-smoker, I wouldn't worry about exposure to the silica.

Seriously, it's a matter of comparing potential risks. I usually hand squash the low populations of flea beetles that appear on my seedlings. (Just rub it against the leaf, once you catch it.) Although I don't spray my leaf with pyrethroids (permethrin), I do spray the seed head with permethrin just prior to tying on a bag. Some of it drifts onto leaf. Harvest is weeks away. I'm not too concerned--maybe a tiny bit concerned.

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I have applied diatomaceous earth. To reduce inhalation hazard I mixed it with water and and just sprinkled the solution around. I also have sprayed with Gamma-Cyhalothrin. It is a form of pyrethroids and is readily available in the local warehouse hardware store. It lasts longer than pyrethrin so hopefully the bugs won't be back in 10 days.
 

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Dito on what CT Tobaccoman do, Orthene is all I use for any insects. Good stuff!!
Orthene used to be registered in SA for tobacco, but not allowed to use on tobacco anymore, kills all the beneficiary insects as well.
 

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Are these tobacco beetles? They are not easy to catch. They jump pretty good and hard to kill. Here is a picture of a few dead ones.
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Here is a picture of the damage.
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How do I get rid of them?

Do they have a hard shell? Get some Diatomaecious Earth and dust your plants with it and mix a little into the soil around them too. DE is made up of microscopic coral and such . Its purpose it a mechanical insecticide rather than a poison. It acts like thousands of tiny razor blades and pierces the hard exoskeleton of beetles, basically then they dehydrate and die. Harmless to us , and washes off easily without residue.
 
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