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    Re: Copy of General Snus

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    Do you guys know where one can buy a good wintergreen flavoring? I'm not having much success searching. Thanks
    Like this? http://www.lorannoils.com/wintergree...or-0030-larger

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

    Liquorice has been used as a sweetener for centuries and centuries over here - and it tastes nothing like anise - the confusion comes because almost all old fashioned liquorice candies use anise as the main flavouring!

    I have seen those health warnings before - but the amounts being discussed are far larger than those used in my snus recipes ... the amount of root I would infuse for a 100g batch would be at most 2 inches long and the majority of the active ingredients would stay in the root anyway ... Some chewing tobacco, especially german chewing tobacco uses crazy amounts of liquorice to make a cloyingly sweet product and I expect that's what the medical website is talking about.

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

    squeezyjohn,
    The data on Licorice is pretty fuzzy. There is no doubt that it inhibits the natural breakdown of adrenal cortisol, effectively causing an increase in the action of the hormone.

    My only concern would be daily consumption of small quantities of licorice. But what "small" means is poorly understood. If the health risks were dramatic, there would be better data.

    If you are young and healthy, I wouldn't give it another thought. If you currently have health issues, then moderation in use of licorice might be reasonable.

    Bob

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

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    Ohh, okay. Thank you for the reply JBD. I am familiar with those flavorings. I thought maybe that would be okay but I didn't know for sure. I have a ton of flavorings left over from when I used to make my own vape juices. I never used the loran oils but I am familiar with their products.

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

    Good info. I monitor my blood pressure frequently and will be sure to use small amounts. I bought some powdered root on Amazon and as I'm between batches when it arrived I sprinkled about 1/4 gram on 30 grams finished snus and mixed in. It's nice, fresh mixed so flavor disappeared quick. It doesn't taste like anise at all, I guess I was expecting it to a bit. Tastes like sweet ginseng to me.

    Thanks for the warnings though, I won't make it a standard ingredient addition.

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

    Just cracked open a sealed 24 oz jar, added half tbs licorice and glycerin, not going to add any other flavoring yet, this batch came out so good. I kind of thought eventually the gassing would release the seal from when it was pressure canned but nope.

    I don't know if I mentioned the flour blend yet, dark air, burley, vuelta abajo, rustica. Wonder if this would be extra stark,. Probably. First taste test is going great.

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

    My second jar was aging for 2+ months or so, it was stored in the basement and was pressure sealed. I had wondered if the gasses would break the seal in a previous post and they did not. Aging sealed did nothing for the product, it still required airing out to get the flavor to express itself. JBD? (I think?) had said in a previous post that greater than a week aging did not improve the end product more than a week and after this test I agree totally. At least in an airtight environment.

    It had almost a fizzy taste? That totally covered up the really awesome snus I've been making lately. Another week with it being opened periodically to refill my can brought the rich flavors back out.

    Just wanted to post that in case anyone else had wondered about the subject.

    When I make big batches now I break the seal on the cap and just lightly thread it so it can breathe.

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokesAhoy View Post
    My second jar was aging for 2+ months or so, it was stored in the basement and was pressure sealed. I had wondered if the gasses would break the seal in a previous post and they did not. Aging sealed did nothing for the product, it still required airing out to get the flavor to express itself. JBD? (I think?) had said in a previous post that greater than a week aging did not improve the end product more than a week and after this test I agree totally. At least in an airtight environment.

    It had almost a fizzy taste? That totally covered up the really awesome snus I've been making lately. Another week with it being opened periodically to refill my can brought the rich flavors back out.

    Just wanted to post that in case anyone else had wondered about the subject.

    When I make big batches now I break the seal on the cap and just lightly thread it so it can breathe.
    Sounds like it had fermented.

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

    No it wasn't fermentation by any stretch of the imagination, if you smell freshly alkalized snus and can imagine that smell getting pushed back into the tobacco in the hermetically sealed container and then expressing it's smell as a taste. I also do a 5 hour pressure cook in lieu of multi day ferments so chances of any life remaining should be basically zero.

    But yeah the flavor does not improve under those conditions until it breathes in my experience.

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    Re: Copy of General Snus

    Yeah ... you've got to let the snus breathe otherwise it keeps the funky taste that you get when its freshly mixed with the alkali. I'd say between 2 weeks and 4 weeks with the lid on, but not airtight in a refridgerator is ideal.

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