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I posted in the Intro section, but then I saw this section so I thought I would post here too.
http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/7488-New-Tobacco-Grower

I am in Colorado and I like to grow all kinds of plants, so I decided to get some tobacco seeds to go along with my other plants. I have never grown tobacco before, but it shouldn't be too much different than any other plant.

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Hopi Tobacco

The high concentration of nicotine in its leaves makes it useful for creating organic pesticides. Used extensively in rituals and religious ceremonies but also used for cramps, sharp pains and headaches. Poultice of beaten plant used for boils and applied to insect bites.
Tender annual that grows 18-24 in. and produces clusters of pendulous greenish-white flowers that open in early evening and emit a rich, jasmine-like aroma. More cold-hardy than other tobaccos. Grows slowly at first until estabilished, then takes off.
To cure tobacco, pick the leaves when they have a tinge of yellow on them and hang them where the leaves will dry out during the day and pick up moisture at night. This is how they cure. When the leaves are completely golden brown and have no more green they are ready to roll. This can take a month or sometimes two. It is best to roll the leaves when there is some humidity present so the leaves are flexible. Lay the leaves out, one at a time, alternating stem to tip for 7 leaves thick. Roll the leaves together tightly, like a big cigar. If desired, twist each end in opposite directions to make the traditional "plug" of tobacco. Shave off a little at a time from the end for each use.


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Red African

African Red is a bright leaf variety with light green colored leaves and white stemmed. A vigorous grower reaching 8 feet (200cm) in height at the first crows foot.
Plant form is columnar. Average size of 10th leaf at maturity 28 inches (60cm).
Leaf width 12" (25cm) 28 leaves total on un-topped plants, not including bed leaves. Matures in 80 days.
Has a high nicotine content, averaging 29.8 mg/g of dried leaf.
Original seed donated to the USDA from Transvaal, South Africa in 1975.


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White Mammoth

White Mammoth is a bright leaf tobacco that grows quick and matures very early at only 50-55 days. It grows 4/12 feet with leaves 2' long and 1' wide.
Suckering is low and the leaves cure easily. A good choice for short growing seasons.
 

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Here are the strains I have seeds for:

Hopi Tobacco (same)
Virginia Tobacco
Red Russian
Nicotiana Alata (Non-smoking tobacco, maybe can breed with another strain and make a new smoke-able hybrid product, similar to Rudarils being mixed with Sativa and Indica to create Autoflower)
Nicotiana Sylvestris (another Non-smoking tobacco)
Paris Wrapper
Vavilov
Kentucky 17
Burley 64
Izmir Ozbis
Thailand
Bamboo Shoot
Bursa
Banana Leaf
Yellow Twist Bud
Crimean
Xanthy
Baiano
Chilean
Dukat Crimean
Prilep
Costa Rica
Gold Dollar
Helena
Yellow Oronoko
 

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Also, if anyone wants to give suggestions about what seeds to Germinate next, I am open to suggestions. I don't really know much about tobacco, so really which ones would you guys want to see grown? I have grown tons other plants before, just not tobacco, so as long as they Germinate I should be able to grow any of them. I am also open to suggestions that are not listed, so if you have a favorite tobacco or something, post that here too. I will probably pick about 4 others to Germinate in the next month, and am open to maybe getting 1 or 2 others.
 

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show some pics of your indoor grow room, never seen to many if any for tobacco. seems like it would have to be very large to acomadate so much.
 

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Totally not feasible to grow tobacco indoors!

Now prove me wrong:)
 

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About a quarter pound of cured leaf per plant so you might just use your grow room for high quality transplants next year but I'm really curious on the speed of hydro vs soil. I know lettuce can go real fast vs dirt but looks like you might be doing indoor dirt grow?

Something I've been thinking about anyhow, I look forward to the updates.
 

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Welcome Sasha,
Do you plan on growing tobacco for smoking ? or just for their beauty ?
As Bob said, tell us what you want to do with your tobacco, and we can give you advices.
 

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About a quarter pound of cured leaf per plant so you might just use your grow room for high quality transplants next year but I'm really curious on the speed of hydro vs soil. I know lettuce can go real fast vs dirt but looks like you might be doing indoor dirt grow?

Something I've been thinking about anyhow, I look forward to the updates.

First off welcome aboard Sasha. You appear to have been bitten buy the tobacco bug. Before you go very far I'd spend some hours reading. Then when you think your ready...read more. Tons of great folks here to answer you question. Best of luck to ya.

Smokes, I am an old hydroponics grower. It's been many years since I've grown indoors but the basics are the same today as they were then. To answer your question about speeds. Yes, hydro is much faster. The roots are free floating in water. No restrictions for them to deal with. They also pick up nutrients faster. Another great feature of hydro is if there is a problem ie...calcium, magnesium, nitrogen, ect problem it can be fixed within a few days verses a plant in soil. One would need a lot of space and a lot lamps. It would be a fun grow though. Talk about some monster plants..lol.
 

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show some pics of your indoor grow room, never seen to many if any for tobacco. seems like it would have to be very large to acomadate so much.
I'll get some pictures soon. I actually just got to Colorado and am moving soon, so everything is a little unorganized. But I should be moving around the 1st, so I will post pics once the new room is set up.
 

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About a quarter pound of cured leaf per plant so you might just use your grow room for high quality transplants next year but I'm really curious on the speed of hydro vs soil. I know lettuce can go real fast vs dirt but looks like you might be doing indoor dirt grow?

Something I've been thinking about anyhow, I look forward to the updates.

Yeah, indoor dirt. And I will probably use it for transplanting next year, I just got here so I didn't have time to grow this summer, but I will for sure be starting a bunch of plants indoors, including peppers, etc, and then next year I will put them outside. I might even get a Greenhouse or something so that I can put big ones outside this year.
 

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Welcome Sasha,
Do you plan on growing tobacco for smoking ? or just for their beauty ?
As Bob said, tell us what you want to do with your tobacco, and we can give you advices.

Probably for smoking, but I might grow the non-smoking strains too. And I am thinking of maybe mixing 2 or more strains over time to make my own breed.
 

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Also, if anyone wants to give suggestions about what seeds to Germinate next, I am open to suggestions. I don't really know much about tobacco, so really which ones would you guys want to see grown? I have grown tons other plants before, just not tobacco, so as long as they Germinate I should be able to grow any of them. I am also open to suggestions that are not listed, so if you have a favorite tobacco or something, post that here too. I will probably pick about 4 others to Germinate in the next month, and am open to maybe getting 1 or 2 others.

I would like to see someone succeed with carphephorus odoratissimus.
 

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It's a plant which grows wild in the south east. It has a distinct and pleasant flavor which has been traditionally used in pipe tobacco. Something like vanilla or coumarin. I found it to grow bloody slowly, and I gradually-mysteriously- lost plant after plant until they were all gone.
From a previous thread:
I thought I'd update on the deerstongue experience. It had been a long and hard grow, and while I started with 11 viable seedlings, they have almost all finally died, except for two shrivelled and limp plants and one gloriously priapistic specimen. See photos.

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I'm hoping I can get fresh seed off it. Perhaps they will be more viable than the ones we bought, and maybe the plants will be more ambitious growers.
 
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