"K, I tried posting the following to your thread on logo ideas. I got a 403 server error- you might want to check your file permissions.
Since you asked...
I will give it to you straight. The last two make me think you are designing a letterhead for a division of the Jolly Green Giant company. They make me want to open up a can of peas. (Of those two, the fourth is better than the 3rd). The first two, I agree with others- the font is very plain. The font on number 2 is terrible. The font on the first is better but speaks Rolex watch to me (or high end casio). Also, I like the veins on the top one, but they obfuscate the letters. None of these logos are very exciting to me. They would be fine for a plain letter head or a small logo on some cheap business cards but for a webpage- the are just way too plain and do not really capture the culture of tobacco. Like I said, these make me think "Ho ho ho, Green Giant!" (Well, the last two do- the first two make me think of pancakes and maple syrup.). I guess they kind of make me think of a fancy health food store too...
With the first two- I do not like the abbreviations at all! You have to have the word "Tobacco" in there somewhere! (IMHO) Even if it is under that leaf with something like "Independently grown fine Tobacco" Or something like that(hopefully something more creative than that... even then though, it would still be free advertizing for IHOP). I just feel that abbreviating de-emphasizes the tobacco.
That said, I do kind of like the font/size differences on the last one. Not sure it is exactly what I would go with but its definitely in the right direction. It kind of simultaneously speaks "sophistication" but yet "hand crafted/fine crafted" to me. I would be more inclined to go with a font with a little bit more exaggeration on the strokes- like understated calligraphy. That font is nice but still kind of computer-like. You dont buy whole leaf tobacco because you are a Star Wars nerd. You buy whole leaf tobacco because you want to hand craft your own high quality fine smoking products. It is a crafters art. But there is also a certain sophistication about it. The font needs to be a bit fine-craftier(not too much though). I also like how the designer emphasized the word tobacco over the others. That looks good.
Oh, actually, I just zoomed in. Yeah, that font is really boring when enlarged. More brush strokes. Just not sweet 16 invitiationish.
Hope I did not offend anyone. You asked. (Please take my comments for what they are- meant to be both constructive criticism and collegially/respectfully humorous. You can't tell me that third one does not make you think of a can of peas!)"