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    Re: POLL: Does your homegrown cigar leaf taste like a cigar?

    You may want to look into a soil analysis by the state Agricultural Extension Service. You send them a small box of dirt. Typical cost is between free and about $20. Knowing what's there helps a lot in determining what supplementation may be useful. (For me, the turnaround time is about a week.)

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    Re: POLL: Does your homegrown cigar leaf taste like a cigar?

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    Hmmm. Okay I guess I need to buy some then. Will only put it in the planting holes and not broadcast it everywhere so it should build up too much.
    I take it you want to stay organic. In addition to home made compost, I use alfalfa pellets. The ones I buy at the animal feed store are 2.6% nitrogen. I have to estimate the phosphorus and potassium somewhere around .75 and 3.0, respectively. So about 2.5-0.75-2.0. Since its organic, only 33% of the nitrogen, 60% of the phosphorus, and 90% of the potassium are actually available in year one, so effectively, the numbers are more like 0.85-0.4-1.8. This ratio is in the neighborhood of many recommendations for tobacco fertilization. Slightly low in phosphorus, but phosphorous deficiency is less common and less detrimental.

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    Re: POLL: Does your homegrown cigar leaf taste like a cigar?

    That's some odd stuff in that Chinese study. (e.g. In the chart, the first 3 rows represent a reasonable fertilizer blend COMPLETELY LACKING N or P or K, respectively. Who does that?) The focus was on the government approved blend (OPT), which translates to an N:P:K of about 10:14:18. So no surprises there.


    Oops! No nitrogen at all! My bad.

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    Re: POLL: Does your homegrown cigar leaf taste like a cigar?

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    To answer the original question. Yes. I'm smoking Piloto that was kilned for two wks. I only pulled out the one leaf. It tastes like cigar.
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    Re: POLL: Does your homegrown cigar leaf taste like a cigar?

    Quote Originally Posted by deluxestogie View Post

    Oops! No nitrogen at all! My bad.

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    Lol. I did learn from it that low phosphorus is the least detrimental, and low nitrogen is the most detrimental. Mind you, I don't know if they controlled for pH, so maybe low nitrogen got a double whammy.
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