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Black Mammoth

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Black Mammoth
What is the uses for it ?
I seeded four trays this year just to refresh the seeds . I have not grown this one before . What I can find is it is a dark variety and is supposedly makes a wrapper leaf .
 

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Smokeless is all I know it for. Supposed to be premium for that use.
 

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It's a fire-cured variants from the start and just like KY:171 It doesn't turn yellow when it is time to harvest the leaf's.It was one of my first favorite tobacco's in snus.Bigbonner do you known if it is the mosaic resistant variant you have or if it is "small stalk black mammoth" or one of the older version?
 

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It's a fire-cured variants from the start and just like KY:171 It doesn't turn yellow when it is time to harvest the leaf's.It was one of my first favorite tobacco's in snus.Bigbonner do you known if it is the mosaic resistant variant you have or if it is "small stalk black mammoth" or one of the older version?
I received the seeds from a viable source and I have them stored away now . I believe it said small stalk Black Mammoth on the bag .
I don't know if it is resistant to mosaic or not .

If you have a plant infected with mosaic , I would pull the plant and get rid of it .Mosaic can live dormant in dead tissue and can infect growing plants in years ahead .

Before when I grew a lot of burley , I did not have to worry about a diseased plant . We may have only had a few diseased plants in a field . But with cigarettes tobacco , it did not have to be top notch quality .
Blue mold hit our crops hard at times even destroying some crops . But tobacco hit hard with blue mold was still sellable .
One year early spring I had outside soil beds and blue mold hit my plant beds . I called my county extension agent and told him I found blue mold . He said "no its not blue mold" , but I will come and take a look .
After he saw my beds , he brought in a University specialist to take sample plants . Those test came back that I had two types of blue mold . Regular blue mold that you could see on the leaves and a systematic blue mold that works on the inside of tobacco plants . I was the first to get blue mold that year and to get it in early spring was very rare and un heard of . Blue mold has to come from spores coming up from Florida , Texas and the gulf coast . From what I understood blue mold was living there on wild tobacco and made its way up north by the weather .
 

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Thanks for sharing that information Bigbonner, really interesting I have not known that it's possible to see the difference between the types of blue mold. Doug has written this about Small stalk black mammoth (the man behind "nicotiana project" page):"Small Stalk Black Mammoth This variety holds itself up well, producing good weight of fine tobacco. It will produce a wrapper or snuff tobacco when allowed to get ripe."http://nicotianaprojectnet.ipage.com/variety_info.htm I know that Grin-Ars have some Black Mammoth's and I have been growing two different"Black mammoth" and also two variants under the name"small stalk Black Mammoth", I also have found two so I think that one of them in reality is a more resistant types of "Black Mammoth" and the other is perhaps a later version.But If you growing a Resistant variant you will often found out that the quality of the tobacco ain't changes that much if you topping it or not. That was also pretty much the reason that I asked that question...
 

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Hasse, Thanks for that link (http://nicotianaprojectnet.ipage.com/variety_info.htm). I've never seen that page in Doug's material. There is no link to it on the current home page.Bob
No it's not easy to find that page, and I don't know if I found it by mistake or if Doug told me when I asked him questions about some variants (that page have pretty good information about alot of variants).When it comes to "Black Mammoth" it's not on the list but I know that it was growing on several places in Sweden 1921-1964. I have reading a letter dated 1956 and the way he was written the letter that was his first grow of the variant. So I believe it also the year it comes to Sweden so the variant is at least from some times in the 1950's.
 
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