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'Oil of Havana' 1883 and other age old recipes...

Gdaddy

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Could you put the whole process together? seems like you've combined two different mixtures which is pretty confusing. What do you do now since it has been about 3 years after making the original post?
Since the past three years I have worked hard on a completely different direction. I believe this following recipe has yielded the best end result. It adds NO detectable flavor to the cigar. The end result is a smooth tobacco flavor.

I use Bentleys book as reference. I use on page 11... his #1 flavor for Havana. My first attempts at this recipe failed because I didn't get the solution correct. I took much more care and effort this time around.

If you decide to try this recipe contact me so I can give you the simple components and how to proceed. You MUST follow his method perfectly for good results. I have it broken down into simple, accurate measurements now.

BTW... the green coffee helps to lower the PH much like citric acid. (it doesn't taste or smell like coffee when it's green)

Take a look...

https://archive.org/stream/bentleysacmeflav00bent#page/10
 

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Since the past three years I have worked hard on a completely different direction. I believe this following recipe has yielded the best end result. It adds NO detectable flavor to the cigar. The end result is a smooth tobacco flavor.

I use Bentleys book as reference. I use on page 11... his #1 flavor for Havana. My first attempts at this recipe failed because I didn't get the solution correct. I took much more care and effort this time around.

If you decide to try this recipe contact me so I can give you the simple components and how to proceed. You MUST follow his method perfectly for good results. I have it broken down into simple, accurate measurements now.
Thanks you for the link to the book !
(you say you worked on another direction, what was this ? it did not suit your expectations ? Tell us more !!)

I am really interested in your method, could you share with us those "simple compononents and how to proceed" ? :)
Do you use only the green coffee beans ? or do you prepare the whole recept n°1 ?

BTW... the green coffee helps to lower the PH much like citric acid. (it doesn't taste or smell like coffee when it's green)
So could we replace the green coffee by just some citric acid ? did you try it ?
(BTW, I did not find citric acid in stores.... ... so I wondered : could I simply use fresh lemon pressed juice ?)

What is the use of the "nitrate of potash" in this recept ?
 

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Thanks you for the link to the book !
(you say you worked on another direction, what was this ? it did not suit your expectations ? Tell us more !!)

I am really interested in your method, could you share with us those "simple compononents and how to proceed" ? :)
Do you use only the green coffee beans ? or do you prepare the whole recept n°1 ?


So could we replace the green coffee by just some citric acid ? did you try it ?
(BTW, I did not find citric acid in stores.... ... so I wondered : could I simply use fresh lemon pressed juice ?)

What is the use of the "nitrate of potash" in this recept ?
The failures I've had in the past were because I didn't follow the recipe exactly. If you were to use lemon juice and leave out the potash it becomes a different recipe altogether.

The green coffee is near impossible to grind fine enough. I bought green coffee powder and had it delivered to my door step already ground perfectly It made a nice rich mixture. My previous efforts were much too weak.

They have citric acid in Walmart and most other stores in the canning section.

Potash is a salt used mostly for combustion.

Hope this helps!
 

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Thanks you for the link to the book !
(you say you worked on another direction, what was this ? it did not suit your expectations ? Tell us more !!)

I am really interested in your method, could you share with us those "simple compononents and how to proceed" ? :)
Do you use only the green coffee beans ? or do you prepare the whole recept n°1 ?


So could we replace the green coffee by just some citric acid ? did you try it ?
(BTW, I did not find citric acid in stores.... ... so I wondered : could I simply use fresh lemon pressed juice ?)

What is the use of the "nitrate of potash" in this recept ?
Green coffee powder... (you can NOT grind your own green coffee beans)
https://www.amazon.com/BulkSupplements-Green-Coffee-Powder-grams/dp/B00PBHHARI?th=1

Here's the easy measurement system. I did all the weights on a digital scale exactly to Bentley.

Green coffee powder... 6 tablespoons =1 oz.
Water.. one pint in a finished solution (as it boils you will need to add more)
Glycerin.. 1 1/4 Teaspoon
Potash... 1/4 Teaspoon.

I decided to leave out the almond extract. It was optional anyway.

Before you make changes I suggest you try it just like it is.

Put the mixed solution in a spray bottle and spray down both sides of the leaf. Don't saturated them but they should be fairly wet with solution. I use a large oil pan to lay out the leaves side by side. The leaves should be on the dry side to absorb the mixture. Stack the dampened leaves in a container and let the solution soak in for two days. Take them out and let them air dry on a table and bring them back to proper case for rolling.

Good luck!
 
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