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Stoving Virginia and Cloning the Frog Morton blends

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On my mission to clone the Frogs and ultimately the 5110 Dark English which was my all day smoke. I am starting with the original recipe which with such a mono-dimensional flavor should be the easiest place to start.

My first step is the primary component. Stoved Virginia!
After reviewing several methods of doing this I was inspired by the "Stovendish" method by Jojjas. (the smell of stoving these was AMAZING, just like pie)

I began by soaking 2 separate containers of Red Virginia Tips, one with just distilled water and the other with a Vinegar solution as recommended by Bob to achieve that "McClelland Ketchup Flavor". Although I didn't quite have enough Vinegar to reach a 50/50 mix using the white vinegar I had on hand I went ahead and did a 1/3 Vinegar mixture. The next run will be made using a 50/50 solution with Apple Cider vinegar.

Before: View attachment 24341 red tips.jpg

After: View attachment 24342 red tips stoved.jpg

The bottom portion of leaf is a bit darker and was made using the Vinegar solution.

Final thoughts: The control of using just distilled water was much smoother, removed a large amount bite, but contained some very interesting fruity notes.
The Vinegar soak reduced the bite even more so...and TANG. I believe using apple cider variant rather than white vinegar will achieve the desired result.

I am wondering if perhaps adding a dose of either sugar or maybe even vanilla to the 50/50 bath will produce a sweet note to contrast the tangy vinegar... Thoughts?

I plan to update my next post with the newer fine-tuned results. Stay tuned!
 
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I've never found adding sugar to increase the sweetness of a smoke. Brown, molasses, glucose, dextrose, honey, xylitol, sucrose, agave syrup. Tried them all. Glycerin, (not PG), at about 2 to 5% the weight of the mixture is the only thing I've found to work.
 
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