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what's the difference? burley vs. burley

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can anybody tell me what's the difference between "Virginian Burley vs. Original Burley? I grew both, VB had huge leaves, cures well: OB was more upright growing, takes ages to cure. Smaller leaves but drying is sooooo much slower?
 
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can anybody tell me what's the difference between "Virginian Burley vs. Original Burley? I grew both, VB had huge leaves, cures well: OB was more upright growing, takes ages to cure. Smaller leaves but drying is sooooo much slower?
Although I'm pretty sure these names are not the real strain names, I believe you answered your own question based on leaf and plant shape; and amount of time it takes to cure.

Possibly the Virginia burley is something like VA509? http://nwtseeds.com/Virginia_509.htm
 

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There are many dozens of named burley varieties. Some on-line vendors take the liberty to make up their own names. I'm not aware of anyone who would even know what "Original Burley" is. That particular "Original Burley" might simply be the initial, unidentified burley sold by that vendor as "Burley", then renamed when a second variety of burley was added to the inventory. CV's guess as as good as any (i.e. just a wild guess).

One matter worth noting is that most of today's burley varieties are white-stem burleys, and have pale stalks, pale central veins, pale green leaf lamina, and color-cure quite rapidly. If your "Original Burley" is lacking in the pale stalk, veins, lamina, then it may be from a group known as "red burley".

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From the description on the site, my SWAG for “original burley” is either TN90 or TN86.
Skychaser might know better, I suspect that the “original seed” comes from his farm.

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His Burley Original used to be Burley 21. At least it was 3-4 years ago. I don't know if it has changed or not. No idea what Virginia Burley might be. It's been a while since he bought any seed from me.

Burley 21 is an old heirloom strain from back in the early 1800'. It is a dark stemmed Burley with very dark green leaves that become mottled with a yellowing tip when ripe.

VA 509 is a white stemmed heirloom strain that matures early and blooms late. It was developed in the 1930's by crosing Burley 37 and Burley 21 It's a very good producer and turns lemon yellow from the bottom up as it ripens, much like TN 90 or 86, but it has more of a pyramidal form and is slightly shorter.
 
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my "original" Burley looks like it is VA509 by Skychaser's desckription. It grew shorter, matured early, bloomed late and has got white vains. The "virginian" Burley had huge leaves, 85x45cm, dark green and matured slowly but cures very well. Thanks you all for information!
 

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can anybody tell me what's the difference between "Virginian Burley vs. Original Burley? I grew both, VB had huge leaves, cures well: OB was more upright growing, takes ages to cure. Smaller leaves but drying is sooooo much slower?
I have been growing a little TN90 burley the past few years, and I gotta say, it does take a long time to cure the higher leaves, I did read that it should be cut 4 weeks after topping however, and I never waited that long. Probably it would cure faster if left in the field longer. Or maybe next year I will try growing a different type of burley
 
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