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Whole Leaf Tobacco

Yellow Twist Bud

FmGrowit

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From what I understand, this is an old heirloom variety from the late 1800's It a great cigarette tobacco when it's primed and equally as good for a cigar filler when stalk cured.

YTB is an early harvest plant, so it should be a first choice for northern climates. Since it's a white stem Burley, it's very easy to cure. I've never noticed any problem with disease in this plant. The only precaution is to make sure you space he plants at least 30" apart in 30" rows. 36" apart and 42" rows would be best.
 

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Bob,

From what I can gather, the white stem/green stem discussion was introduced on the HTGT boards. It might be a very well known term in the world of commercial tobacco growers, but the term was more or less accidentally introduced into the home grower vocabulary at HTGT.

Basically, the question arose when some members were having trouble curing their leaf. After quite a few discussions, someone introduced the theory of white stem/green stem and almost instantly, it was determined that white stemmed tobacco cured much more easily than green stemmed tobacco. I suppose it's possible that all white stemmed tobacco is a direct ancestor of White Burley as almost all Burley varieties are white stem, but there are many other white stemmed tobacco that are not Burley. Havana 142 is a Cigar Binder (I believe) and it is a white stemmed tobacco. Most Fire cured and Cigar Wrapper varieties are green stemmed (and through my own personal experience), are difficult to color cure.

My experience also shows, most white stemmed is milder in flavor with the exception of Oriental varieties. I'm pretty sure all of the Orientals I've grown were all green stem.
 

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ive read a lot about ytb burley,,,,,and am thinking very seriuos about having it in my patch next year...
 
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I grew YTB this year (my first year) IT is one of the two best varieties I grew. Very easy to cure. Fast maturing but not as fast as Monte Calm Yellow (TN90) It is a little slower in it's early growth than MCY but makes up ground fast and actually turned out to be my best producing strain for this year.

Mine was prone to heavily sucker but I will not pretend to know why. there where several reasons early on for it to be stressed. still it grew even in a 5 gallon bucket very well. I already have 4 lbs of it shredded and in a bag aging and I have barely started getting it cured and dried. That is from 50 plants grown in 5 gallon buckets.

thanks FM for your recommendation last spring. YTB has been a big winner for me this year.
 

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^^^^^^^^^ well after that positive review of ytb

im really intrested,,,, my burley all died this year??? why i dont know,,, the whole seed tray all 72 cells in the tray '' dead'' when they were only 2 centimeters tall...

my '' filler'' grew good,,, big-gem,,,,,sharika..
 

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One of my favorites too. A couple of years ago, I rolled some cigarettes with primed and toasted YTB and gave them to friends. Nobody believed I grew it, but almost all said they had never tasted anything like it.

YTB is probably the most versatile variety I know of. Lower leaves can (should) be primed for mild cigarette tobacco and binders or even wrappers. The middle position can be primed also for a stronger cigarette tobacco or a nice smooth cigar filler. Upper stalk position can be whole stalk cured for a strong cigar filler. Of course you can also stalk cure the whole plant for a stronger flavor from the whole plant.
 

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Is this variety good for pipe tobacco ?
So far of all the whole leaf tobaccos I've tried the YTB has been my favorite. One of our forum members was kind enough to send me a sample of some he grew and I was very impressed with the flavor. I even made a small mix of half YTB and half Flue cured Bright leaf and it made a very tasty Burley and Bright. I hope to grow a bunch of it this coming year.
 

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I just rolled a puro from YTB I grew last year and kilned in the fall. Since the kiln it has hung in the sun porch till now. The leaf was a bit too damp and the cigar did not draw welly well. These leaves were third priming and tops. I am surprised by how mild they are. It is a pretty and surprisingly delicate leaf. I didn't find anything outstanding in it's flavor. At this point I think I'll use it as wrapper as I am getting short on CT shade. -- John
 

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I just rolled a puro from YTB I grew last year and kilned in the fall. Since the kiln it has hung in the sun porch till now. The leaf was a bit too damp and the cigar did not draw welly well. These leaves were third priming and tops. I am surprised by how mild they are. It is a pretty and surprisingly delicate leaf. I didn't find anything outstanding in it's flavor. At this point I think I'll use it as wrapper as I am getting short on CT shade. -- John
Thats awesome I have been smoking cigars for a while now, dI'd you roll it and smoke it all in the same setting ? Do you use a mold? I can definitely see myself trying this too, I love growing stuff and even more so when I use it for something
 

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Thats awesome I have been smoking cigars for a while now, dI'd you roll it and smoke it all in the same setting ? Do you use a mold? I can definitely see myself trying this too, I love growing stuff and even more so when I use it for something
No. I roll several and let them dry over night or longer. Then I put them in the humidor till they're gone. I originally got a mold but it was just a pain to use. After you've rolled 20 or 30 you get pretty good smoking cigars. After that good looking ones will start too. The reason I got a mold was so my cigars would fit a holder I made. It worked but wasn't worth the extra steps so I gave up the holder. Now after rolling a few hundred they are almost consistent enough I could use the holder again but I've gotten out of the habit. In the DIY thread you can see the my rolling setup. Not difficult. It just requires practice. I think the most common error is having your filler too wet. That makes a tightly packed smoke that does not draw well. -- John
 

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Leaf that is moist will make the cigar much milder also. I've found that when I roll a cigar with moist leaf, it gets mushy after about 1/4 of the way smoked. The cigar can get hot and even spit if the filler is too moist.
 

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Leaf that is moist will make the cigar much milder also. I've found that when I roll a cigar with moist leaf, it gets mushy after about 1/4 of the way smoked. The cigar can get hot and even spit if the filler is too moist.
Agreed. That is what I am experiencing now. I don't care for it much. -- J
 
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