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I got a sample from Don on my last order. I was impressed.......nice taste, you need very little shred added to your normal cigarette tobacco blend for an enhanced flavoring. Beats all oriental tobacco's I've tried. As an added bonus it also seems to slow the cig burning down some.

Good stuff, I wish Don sold HALF pounds of this stuff. Its fairly powerful tasting, you don't need much of it in your normal blend added.
 

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I got a sample from Don on my last order. I was impressed.......nice taste, you need very little shred added to your normal cigarette tobacco blend for an enhanced flavoring. Beats all oriental tobacco's I've tried. As an added bonus it also seems to slow the cig burning down some.

Good stuff, I wish Don sold HALF pounds of this stuff. Its fairly powerful tasting, you don't need much of it in your normal blend added.

Kumovgrad is also a favorite of mine. Its a Basma type. It shreds easily, I can feed in several leaves at a time. I will grow it next year.
 

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I got a sample from Don on my last order. I was impressed.......nice taste, you need very little shred added to your normal cigarette tobacco blend for an enhanced flavoring. Beats all oriental tobacco's I've tried. As an added bonus it also seems to slow the cig burning down some.

Good stuff, I wish Don sold HALF pounds of this stuff. Its fairly powerful tasting, you don't need much of it in your normal blend added.

I haven’t tried Don‘s Krumovgrad yet but I have grown it. If I’m remembering right they grow to a really nice size for an Oriental. Out of curiosity have you tried the Prilep?
 

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I haven’t tried Don‘s Krumovgrad yet but I have grown it. If I’m remembering right they grow to a really nice size for an Oriental. Out of curiosity have you tried the Prilep?
I would love to try Don's prilep but it has been sold out for a while now. Other than that, I have purchased his C4 Basma, bagged Katerini (2016 crop), b2 Krumovgrad and love them all. I've recently also been leaning toward the b2 Krum due to it's seemingly lower acidity than the Basma. I love the Katerini as well but it seems to have a very high acidity and I haven't spent enough time with blending it yet. All in all Don sells outstanding selections, but we already knew that!
 

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I got a sample of the Krumovgrad B2 a few weeks ago. As soon as it arrived I added a bit to my regular daily cigarette smoking blend. Wow, I was really impressed with what it did to bring all the other tobaccos together. So I ordered a pound right away. Now it's going to have a place in all my blends from now until WLT runs out.
As a side note, I normally don't like Oriental tobaccos but the Krumovgrad B2 is something else entirely. What I noticed most is how it added a dry feel to my blend while also bringing a slightly floral note. From now on instead of using Virginia Thin Leaf in my blend I'm now using Krumovgrad B2. It seems to have the same attributes as the thin leaf with the added subtle Oriental notes.

Can't wait to see how this ages after sitting in my hot car for a few weeks. Don't laugh, this technique has done wonders in quick aging tobacco. It's like the poor man's kiln on wheels.
 

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I got a sample of the Krumovgrad B2 a few weeks ago. As soon as it arrived I added a bit to my regular daily cigarette smoking blend. Wow, I was really impressed with what it did to bring all the other tobaccos together. So I ordered a pound right away. Now it's going to have a place in all my blends from now until WLT runs out.
As a side note, I normally don't like Oriental tobaccos but the Krumovgrad B2 is something else entirely. What I noticed most is how it added a dry feel to my blend while also bringing a slightly floral note. From now on instead of using Virginia Thin Leaf in my blend I'm now using Krumovgrad B2. It seems to have the same attributes as the thin leaf with the added subtle Oriental notes.

Can't wait to see how this ages after sitting in my hot car for a few weeks. Don't laugh, this technique has done wonders in quick aging tobacco. It's like the poor man's kiln on wheels.
Have you had a chance to compare the Krumovgrad B2 with the Krumovgrad T2? I've got both kinds, but have not been able to dig in and distinguish the two apart. However, just the past three days, have added the B2 to my cigarette mix as a substitute for Basma and Katerini, and I really enjoyed it. Added some perique and it is fantastic!!! Next I think I'll try like you noted and leave out the thin leaf and use the B2 in its place. Thanks for the great idea!!!

Cheers
 

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Have you had a chance to compare the Krumovgrad B2 with the Krumovgrad T2? I've got both kinds, but have not been able to dig in and distinguish the two apart. However, just the past three days, have added the B2 to my cigarette mix as a substitute for Basma and Katerini, and I really enjoyed it. Added some perique and it is fantastic!!! Next I think I'll try like you noted and leave out the thin leaf and use the B2 in its place. Thanks for the great idea!!!

Cheers
My first experience with Oriental tobacco was the Basma from WLT aside from commercial cigs. So I only have the Basma to compare the B2 with.

I just mixed up a new blend using all my usual tobaccos but replaced the Va. thin leaf with B2. Wow, it's now officially going too replace the thin leaf. I've been working with whole leaf for a couple years now and this is by far my favorite blend yet. The B2 has added this dry/bright note to the blend as well as a toasty flavor. It's blowing my mind actually. And the B2 aids in the a smooth burn just like the thin leaf.

I'm going to do a test with a little perique as you suggested :)
 

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Have you had a chance to compare the Krumovgrad B2 with the Krumovgrad T2? I've got both kinds, but have not been able to dig in and distinguish the two apart. However, just the past three days, have added the B2 to my cigarette mix as a substitute for Basma and Katerini, and I really enjoyed it. Added some perique and it is fantastic!!! Next I think I'll try like you noted and leave out the thin leaf and use the B2 in its place. Thanks for the great idea!!!

Cheers
I was curious of the difference too. If you could please let me know what you think of the T2 versus the B2 (I have B2) I would really appreciate it. How was the leaf color of your B2? I seemed to get a fair amount of light greenish leaves in my pound and was wondering if that's just how all the B2 is. It doesn't seem to have negatively affected the flavor or anything but I don't really have anything to compare it to either. I also have the Basma c4. I enjoy the basma as well but may prefer the krumovgrad b2 due to its lower acidity which is more useful in my cigarette blends
 

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I got a sample of the Krumovgrad B2 a few weeks ago. As soon as it arrived I added a bit to my regular daily cigarette smoking blend. Wow, I was really impressed with what it did to bring all the other tobaccos together. So I ordered a pound right away. Now it's going to have a place in all my blends from now until WLT runs out.
As a side note, I normally don't like Oriental tobaccos but the Krumovgrad B2 is something else entirely. What I noticed most is how it added a dry feel to my blend while also bringing a slightly floral note. From now on instead of using Virginia Thin Leaf in my blend I'm now using Krumovgrad B2. It seems to have the same attributes as the thin leaf with the added subtle Oriental notes.

Can't wait to see how this ages after sitting in my hot car for a few weeks. Don't laugh, this technique has done wonders in quick aging tobacco. It's like the poor man's kiln on wheels.
haha! I actually like the hot car thing as a resourceful way to use what you already have without building/ buying something extra and utilizing the greenhouse effect that is otherwise bothersome! Possibly a touch of brilliance with that one. I can see it now....fairtrade members driving down the road with the backhalf of their car filled with hanging tobacco leaf...hahaha!!
 

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My first experience with Oriental tobacco was the Basma from WLT aside from commercial cigs. So I only have the Basma to compare the B2 with.

I just mixed up a new blend using all my usual tobaccos but replaced the Va. thin leaf with B2. Wow, it's now officially going too replace the thin leaf. I've been working with whole leaf for a couple years now and this is by far my favorite blend yet. The B2 has added this dry/bright note to the blend as well as a toasty flavor. It's blowing my mind actually. And the B2 aids in the a smooth burn just like the thin leaf.

I'm going to do a test with a little perique as you suggested :)
What VA or VAs do you use in this blend primarily? If you haven't tried the Red Leaf yet I hightly recommend it. Its' naturally low acidity makes it almost perfect to smoke by itself and in my opinion it is cured to perfection! I've bought more red leaf than anything else from WLT by far.
 

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What VA or VAs do you use in this blend primarily? If you haven't tried the Red Leaf yet I hightly recommend it. Its' naturally low acidity makes it almost perfect to smoke by itself and in my opinion it is cured to perfection! I've bought more red leaf than anything else from WLT by far.
I’m not a big fan of the Red Leaf. It was the first leaf I bought. Tried to love it but it never suited my taste. Va bright and Va lemon are my favorites and the primary base to my blends. At the moment I’ve been blending regular bright leaf, hand tied lemon, toasted Maryland 609 and Va thin leaf.
 

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I’m not a big fan of the Red Leaf. It was the first leaf I bought. Tried to love it but it never suited my taste. Va bright and Va lemon are my favorites and the primary base to my blends. At the moment I’ve been blending regular bright leaf, hand tied lemon, toasted Maryland 609 and Va thin leaf.
Seems we're both tracking on more things than thought. VA Lemon is my best and favorite blending leaf. Have been using the bright leaf, hand tied lemon, MD 609 and thin leaf as my main mix. Have been mixing it up with KY Burley and MD609 and a 50/50 mix of the two, but other than that, we appear to be mixing the same. Have also mixed in some Nicotiana Rustica to pump up the nicotine in a few batches. Also, going to try and mix in some DAC to maybe mix in some "raisin" taste that I hear about so much. Thinking that when that is paired up with the perique, should be a dynamite blend.

Cheers
 

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Seems we're both tracking on more things than thought. VA Lemon is my best and favorite blending leaf. Have been using the bright leaf, hand tied lemon, MD 609 and thin leaf as my main mix. Have been mixing it up with KY Burley and MD609 and a 50/50 mix of the two, but other than that, we appear to be mixing the same. Have also mixed in some Nicotiana Rustica to pump up the nicotine in a few batches. Also, going to try and mix in some DAC to maybe mix in some "raisin" taste that I hear about so much. Thinking that when that is paired up with the perique, should be a dynamite blend.

Cheers
I'm highly considering purchasing some DAC as well. I just see and hear so much about it and it's probably in 90% of the blends I read about that it seems like I have to at least try it. I own HT lemon and bright leaf and I certainly like them, but red leaf just really did it for me...I guess it is all subjective. I smoked the red pack camel turkish royals when I bought commercially and I think the red leaf gets close to that without too much input from anything else (other than an oriental of course). Do you guys prefer the regular bright leaf over the HT? I got a sample of the regular and much preferred the HT over the original. I will say that I very much like the lemon and bright with perique, but as far as a stand alone VA my vote is on the red leaf. Just my two cents....ENJOY!!
 

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I'm highly considering purchasing some DAC as well. I just see and hear so much about it and it's probably in 90% of the blends I read about that it seems like I have to at least try it. I own HT lemon and bright leaf and I certainly like them, but red leaf just really did it for me...I guess it is all subjective. I smoked the red pack camel turkish royals when I bought commercially and I think the red leaf gets close to that without too much input from anything else (other than an oriental of course). Do you guys prefer the regular bright leaf over the HT? I got a sample of the regular and much preferred the HT over the original. I will say that I very much like the lemon and bright with perique, but as far as a stand alone VA my vote is on the red leaf. Just my two cents....ENJOY!!
My opinion on WLT Bright Leaf is the regular is far superior than the HT. I would happily smoke the HT and use it in my blends but as far as having to choose I'd always prefer the regular over the HT.
 

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Seems we're both tracking on more things than thought. VA Lemon is my best and favorite blending leaf. Have been using the bright leaf, hand tied lemon, MD 609 and thin leaf as my main mix. Have been mixing it up with KY Burley and MD609 and a 50/50 mix of the two, but other than that, we appear to be mixing the same. Have also mixed in some Nicotiana Rustica to pump up the nicotine in a few batches. Also, going to try and mix in some DAC to maybe mix in some "raisin" taste that I hear about so much. Thinking that when that is paired up with the perique, should be a dynamite blend.

Cheers
If you haven't tried toasting the 609 I recommend giving it a try. Also, where are you getting your Nicotiana Rustica from? I've got a friend who's from Peru and when he travels to visit family he always brings me back
some of the native tobacco which I think is Nicotiana Rustica. Last time he brought me back what the natives call Anaconda tobacco. It was a long inch and a half thick roll of compressed leaf that was out of this world and so strong and flavorful. It was like the Peruvian version of perique.

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If you haven't tried toasting the 609 I recommend giving it a try. Also, where are you getting your Nicotiana Rustica from? I've got a friend who's from Peru and when he travels to visit family he always brings me back
some of the native tobacco which I think is Nicotiana Rustica. Last time he brought me back what the natives call Anaconda tobacco. It was a long inch and a half thick roll of compressed leaf that was out of this world and so strong and flavorful. It was like the Peruvian version of perique.
Haven't tried toasting the MD609 yet. Tried it with some other leaves, but do not think I was doing it correctly as I cannot find an "Exact" Time/Temp process. I hear a range of temps from 125 to mid 200's to some that were over 300.

How are you toasting your 609?

Also, hate to sound dumb (again) but what is HT? Hand Tied? It just clicked. If so, I still think the Lemon has the sweet taste better than the bright leaf that I have noticed. I'm not a connoisseur with a complicated pallet, just what I think I detect from the smoking of the blends.

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Haven't tried toasting the MD609 yet. Tried it with some other leaves, but do not think I was doing it correctly as I cannot find an "Exact" Time/Temp process. I hear a range of temps from 125 to mid 200's to some that were over 300.

How are you toasting your 609?

Also, hate to sound dumb (again) but what is HT? Hand Tied? It just clicked. If so, I still think the Lemon has the sweet taste better than the bright leaf that I have noticed. I'm not a connoisseur with a complicated pallet, just what I think I detect from the smoking of the blends.

Cheers
Yep, HT is the acronym for hand tied. The HT Lemon is out of this world good. Especially after it ages for a few months. Toasting isn't a science as far as I could gather.

I first shred the 609 tobacco and then spread it in an even layer on a baking sheet. Put it in a preheated oven at 250 degrees for 30 minutes. That's a good starting point.
Depending on how it's cased you might have to bake for longer because all the moisture has to first evaporate before the toasting actually starts. I've gone up to an hour and a half at 250 before.
It's all a matter of taste in regards to determining how toasted you'd like it.
 

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Yep, HT is the acronym for hand tied. The HT Lemon is out of this world good. Especially after it ages for a few months. Toasting isn't a science as far as I could gather.

I first shred the 609 tobacco and then spread it in an even layer on a baking sheet. Put it in a preheated oven at 250 degrees for 30 minutes. That's a good starting point.
Depending on how it's cased you might have to bake for longer because all the moisture has to first evaporate before the toasting actually starts. I've gone up to an hour and a half at 250 before.
It's all a matter of taste in regards to determining how toasted you'd like it.
Going to try that this weekend! How crispy do you let it get? Some I've tried I let stay in too long and while it didn't burn, it was extremely crumbly when I took it out. Some times I tend to be too skittish and pull it out before it is truly toasted.

Cheers
 

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Going to try that this weekend! How crispy do you let it get? Some I've tried I let stay in too long and while it didn't burn, it was extremely crumbly when I took it out. Some times I tend to be too skittish and pull it out before it is truly toasted.

Cheers
It'll get really crispy when it's finished. After it's done toasting I spray it down with either a fine mist of water or a casing of strong green coffee bean tea. Let the tobacco set for 15-20 minutes before handling. Making sure its cased beyond the point of crumbling. After which place into an air tight container for a few weeks. You can smoke it right away but after it cures a bit it's much better.
 

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Going to try that this weekend! How crispy do you let it get? Some I've tried I let stay in too long and while it didn't burn, it was extremely crumbly when I took it out. Some times I tend to be too skittish and pull it out before it is truly toasted.

Cheers

Btw, my dad was in the Coast Guard and retired back in the late 80's after 30 years of service. I recognized the uniform in your profile picture(y)
 
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