My guess is that it is woolly mullein.
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During my USAF survival training, I learned that Woolly Mullein is a relatively safe choice for emergency use as toilet paper in the wilderness.
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No. Unfortunately, time of budding is influenced by a number of environmental factors that are often difficult to determine: light periods during seedling growth; changes in ambient temperature; exposure to outdoor lighting; soil nutrient conditions; and others. Also potted plants sometimes do not reflect the results of the same plants in the ground. The specific variety may or may not be a factor.
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Thank you, Bob! I’m beginning to think it’s the soil. Some seem to be doing good and others are sorta iffy. My mother in laws land might be best to grow them in. I definitely gave them all tomato fertilizer. The Turkish Izmir in the pot has its flowers coming. So looking forward to bag the bud head. Also was wondering is mulch safe/ok to use around the plants?
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The mulch is probably okay. Not even the manufacturer's web site lists it.
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Love the Jasmine as well, very beautiful and nice floral scent
As far as I know they are doing well in my crappy clay soil lol
Garbage can in the background is where I store my water to water the plants when needed. We go through droughts often in the summer and my water is city water with lots of chlorine
As far as I know they are doing well in my crappy clay soil lol
Garbage can in the background is where I store my water to water the plants when needed. We go through droughts often in the summer and my water is city water with lots of chlorine
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I’ll be honest and say the ones I took a photo of are the ones I thought are doing the best. I have more plants but I’m not sure how they will turn out. They sorta made progress with some recent rain storms but I don’t know. I might need to regrow some. My mother in law has black dirt and lots of veggies have done really well in the soil. I’m thinking should be all good to grow tobacco or Toby as I call it as I’m a big Hobbit-Lord of the Rings -JRR Tolkein fan 
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I’m not sure what the previous owners did to the soil. The crazy thing is it seems to be good for tobacco. The v116 and Corojo 99 are doing fairly well on that side of the land. For comparison, the big plant is v116 on that good side the small plants are also v116 on the other side of the lot.
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Was about to reply on some of the questions on the first page when i noticed 17 pages and the first page being back from 2021 haha. I can see you got your light issues sorted
If it hasn't been mentioned on the pages in between the first and this (yeah, i didn't read it all, sorry!), there's this thing called PPFD. It stands for Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density, and is a measure of how many photons actually get to the plant at a certain height of the grow light, usually measured in micromoles (umol).
Grow lights are a fecking jungle, and many manufacturers/resellers don't state the PPFD of their products, either out of ignorance or poor performance i guess. Often you will instead get some indication of lumen (which is basically how bright it looks to us) and kelvin degrees, which is basically how cold or warm the light looks to us. In other words, you generally can't use those measurements for plants at all.
When they DO provide the PPFD, it is often an amount of umol at 10 cm height, which isn't bad, but that also means you have to worry about the spread and effectiveness/decline of said light at that distance to the plant.
Then you can go "BIG" and buy one of the many top brands grow light setups, but they have some issues too. Those issues are usually not with the light itself, but the cost of the gear, and the watts consumed.
I don't know about you, but i'm not made out of money. So in order to get decent results indoors, either just for sprouting, seedlings or the whole process, you really have to have a large look around on the market. What i've found so far is that low wattage fixtures with a PPFD of around 200-300 umol/s works pretty well if you have enough of them. In my personal setup i use 6 LED tubes at 12W each, with a PPFD of 240 umol/sec if i remember right. They are mounted on a frame of my own making, and since they use only 12W each, its a measly 72w for it all. Each LED tube i've bought for around 240 DKR (~35 USD) totalling 1440 DKR (210 USD) for my setup. You can easily find setups that will cost 5-15000 DKR (730-2200 USD) that promises to do the same. And sure they will do that, and probably a little better too. But they will cost you an arm and a leg, and will usually ride your electricity bill to the skies as well with 500-2000w.
Anyway, just a little post from me If you had all this sorted on page 2-16, then just disregard it all haha.
If it hasn't been mentioned on the pages in between the first and this (yeah, i didn't read it all, sorry!), there's this thing called PPFD. It stands for Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density, and is a measure of how many photons actually get to the plant at a certain height of the grow light, usually measured in micromoles (umol).
Grow lights are a fecking jungle, and many manufacturers/resellers don't state the PPFD of their products, either out of ignorance or poor performance i guess. Often you will instead get some indication of lumen (which is basically how bright it looks to us) and kelvin degrees, which is basically how cold or warm the light looks to us. In other words, you generally can't use those measurements for plants at all.
When they DO provide the PPFD, it is often an amount of umol at 10 cm height, which isn't bad, but that also means you have to worry about the spread and effectiveness/decline of said light at that distance to the plant.
Then you can go "BIG" and buy one of the many top brands grow light setups, but they have some issues too. Those issues are usually not with the light itself, but the cost of the gear, and the watts consumed.
I don't know about you, but i'm not made out of money. So in order to get decent results indoors, either just for sprouting, seedlings or the whole process, you really have to have a large look around on the market. What i've found so far is that low wattage fixtures with a PPFD of around 200-300 umol/s works pretty well if you have enough of them. In my personal setup i use 6 LED tubes at 12W each, with a PPFD of 240 umol/sec if i remember right. They are mounted on a frame of my own making, and since they use only 12W each, its a measly 72w for it all. Each LED tube i've bought for around 240 DKR (~35 USD) totalling 1440 DKR (210 USD) for my setup. You can easily find setups that will cost 5-15000 DKR (730-2200 USD) that promises to do the same. And sure they will do that, and probably a little better too. But they will cost you an arm and a leg, and will usually ride your electricity bill to the skies as well with 500-2000w.
Anyway, just a little post from me
If you had all this sorted on page 2-16, then just disregard it all haha.Thank you very much, Onde! It’s great to know.
I have actually figured out the whole light issue or at least it just gets the job done lol. As long as they are growing big enough to eventually be put outside then that’s all I need. I have even had success growing them without using a grow light and just use the sun shining in the window.
I now have other issues to figure out like curing the leaves, aging them, and the soil to grow them in. Figuring out my plan to grow them outside. I think it’s down to either growing them at my mother in laws house or doing what Wallace did with plant bags and kiddie pools.
Have another question I thought of, if my plants flower too early do they produce good seed or no? Or is it something I’m going to have to experiment on?
Thank you very much again!
I have actually figured out the whole light issue or at least it just gets the job done lol. As long as they are growing big enough to eventually be put outside then that’s all I need. I have even had success growing them without using a grow light and just use the sun shining in the window.
I now have other issues to figure out like curing the leaves, aging them, and the soil to grow them in. Figuring out my plan to grow them outside. I think it’s down to either growing them at my mother in laws house or doing what Wallace did with plant bags and kiddie pools.
Have another question I thought of, if my plants flower too early do they produce good seed or no? Or is it something I’m going to have to experiment on?
Thank you very much again!
Planting into Mother Earth, and mostly relying on natural rainfall for watering is less work and certainly less expensive than grow bags.
Bob
Their entire purpose in life is to produce viable seed. Just be sure to bag them, to maintain their varietal purity.
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Well said Bob and I will for sure plant them in the ground if I can. It’s more of a back up plan to plant them in a grow bag/pot because my soil isn’t good at all. I found out why the plants are doing good in that one section is because we put some black dirt in a few years ago and really haven’t used that area for growing plants. It likely won’t last long as the whole area we had black dirt put in and the other plants aren’t doing good. So hopefully I can grow them at my mother in laws house or it’s the back up plan. Don’t really want to put money into the soil in my backyard.
Ok, sounds good. If they happen to produce some more flowers I will for sure bag them. I clipped the flowers off hoping it would help them grow but it really hasn’t. I for sure always bag them if I want to save seed to keep them pure
Virginia 116 and Corojo 99 these two plants are doing the best out of my group besides the Turkish Izmir in the pot. Have some Turkish Izmir curing.
Thank you, Bob!
Ok, sounds good. If they happen to produce some more flowers I will for sure bag them. I clipped the flowers off hoping it would help them grow but it really hasn’t. I for sure always bag them if I want to save seed to keep them pure
Virginia 116 and Corojo 99 these two plants are doing the best out of my group besides the Turkish Izmir in the pot. Have some Turkish Izmir curing.
Thank you, Bob!
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I was looking at my Jasmine which is doing really good in my crappy soil. Noticed these seeds pods or brown, think they are ready to pluck to collect seed? It just rained this morning so should I wait until they dry for a bit to collect or is it ok to collect them now?
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It's always safer to cut and store fully dry seed pods.
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