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Anyone got a "Basic how to grow" guide ?

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Hi Guys
For us "Newbies" to tobacco growing etc can anyone put a basic guide up online for us ?
I know there are probably many different methods / rules for the different varieties of plant , but just a rough idea would be nice. ;)
 

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This is one of the better guides I've found on the internet.

Courtesy of U.S. Department of Agriculture, Cooperative Extension Service, University of Florida, IFAS, Florida A. & M. University Cooperative Extension Program, and Boards of County Commissioners Cooperating. Millie Ferrer-Chancy, Interim Dean.


Growing Tobacco in the Home Garden


E. B. Whitty

Many homeowners wish to grow a few plants of tobacco in their yard or garden for ornamental purposes or for personal use. Tobacco plants are usually no more difficult to grow than many other garden plants, but it is difficult to cure, age, and process tobacco without specialized facilities. As a result of federal legislation in late 2005, restrictions of commercial tobacco production to quota holders are no longer in effect.
Tobacco is a member of the Solanaceae or nightshade family, which includes tomato, pepper, eggplant, Irish potato, and a number of other plants. Tobacco belongs to the genus Nicotiana, and almost all commercial tobacco is of the tabacum species. The Nicotiana rustica species was commonly used by American Indians and may still be used for ceremonial purposes in some areas. There may be small amounts of N. rustica planted commercially in Asia. A number of other species of Nicotiana serve as ornamental plants.


Soil Selection

Tobacco should be grown in a sunny location on well drained soils. Poorly drained soils could result in poor growth and even death of the plants. Tobacco can be grown on poorly drained soils if the rows or hills are bedded, and ditches or furrows are used to remove excess water.
Drought stress could limit growth on excessively drained soils unless irrigation is provided. Lack of sun will result in spindly plants, poor growth and thin leaves. Some types of tobacco -- such as that used for cigar wrappers -- are grown under some shade to promote desirable leaf characteristics.
Avoid planting tobacco on soil infested with nematodes and diseases. Do not plant tobacco on the same soil more than once every four to five years. Instead, rotate tobacco with plants that are not susceptible to common soil-borne pests of tobacco. Grasses would be excellent rotations for tobacco while tomato, pepper, and similar plants would not be suitable. In addition to soil-borne pests, several virus diseases and insects that attack tomato and pepper also attack tobacco, so try to keep those plants in different areas of the garden.
Soil pH should be about 5.8 for best growth of tobacco. If lime is needed to raise the pH, use dolomite to get the magnesium nutrient that is important for plant growth. Poor growth and some growth disorders may occur if the soil pH is about 6.5 or more.

Producing Transplants

It may be difficult to find tobacco seed of the commercial varieties since they are sold only in tobacco-producing areas. However, seed will retain viability over several years if kept under cool and dry conditions. Commercial varieties of tobacco were developed for certain characteristics that may be of little or no importance to home gardeners. A number of seed companies specialize in providing tobacco seed for growing plants in the home garden. A search of the Internet should provide information on such vendors.
Since tobacco seed are very small (300,000 or more per ounce), they should be sown in a greenhouse or in a protected area. The soil should be free of weed seed and disease organisms. A flower pot is a satisfactory container if only a few transplants are needed.
Sprinkle the seed on the soil surface, then firm the soil surface to insure good seed-to-soil contact. Pelleted seed may be available and would allow easier and more uniform placement of seed.
Irrigate with a very fine spray, or add water to a saucer under the flower pot. Add water as often as necessary to keep the soil surface moist, but avoid excessive water.
Small amounts of fertilizer will be needed to produce the transplants. A tobacco fertilizer should contain little or no chlorine, and most of the nitrogen should be in the nitrate form. Fertilizer manufactured for use on tomato, pepper, and potato should be satisfactory for tobacco.
Seed should be sown about 50-60 days prior to the desired date of transplanting. Transplanting should be after there is no further danger of freezing temperatures. Normally the best transplant is about 6-8 inches in length.

Transplanting

Transplanting tobacco is similar to transplanting for other garden plants. Bury or remove trash from the soil surface, and provide for drainage by bedding the soil. If rows are used, space the plants about 24 inches apart. Rows should be 42-48 inches apart. Water the plants immediately after transplanting and as needed during the season.

Fertilization

Fertilizers for tobacco could be the same fertilizers used for tomato, pepper, or potato. As in plant production, the fertilizer should contain little or no chlorine, and most of the nitrogen should be in the nitrate form.
In general, it would be best to apply the fertilizer in several applications. Some could be applied to the soil before transplanting, but do not place the fertilizer where it will be in high concentration around the roots of the transplants. The total amount of fertilizer to apply will depend on the grade of the fertilizer, the natural or residual fertility of the soil, losses of soluble nutrients by leaching, and perhaps other factors.
The best approach to fertilizing garden tobacco would be to apply fertilizer as needed to keep the plants growing well with a good green color. However, do not over fertilize or the plants may become too big and rank. If adequately fertilized up to the time of flowering, there should be no need to add any more fertilizer after the flowers begin to form.

Pest Control

Several pests can be problems for tobacco. Avoid nematode and other soil pest problems by proper soil selection and rotation. Weeds can be controlled by hoeing or pulling. The most common insect problems expected would be budworms, aphids and hornworms. Diseases that damage tobacco may include those that attack other plants, or they may be specific pathogens for tobacco. Identify the pest problem and consult the appropriate pest control guide for information.

Topping and Suckering

While some tobacco plants are grown around the home for ornamental purposes, which includes the flowers, plants that are grown for cured tobacco should normally be topped as soon as the flower forms. Topping -- removal of the terminal bud -- allows the upper leaves to get larger and thicker than they would in an uptopped condition. The top can be removed by breaking it out or cutting it off, preferably before any flowers open.
Soon after the top is removed (and before if topping is delayed) axillary buds or suckers develop at each leaf. The best way for the home gardener to prevent the suckers from reducing yield and quality is to remove them by hand. Suckers should be removed when they exceed about an inch in length. It may be necessary to remove suckers several times.

Harvesting and Curing

Due to the needs for proper harvesting and curing tobacco, there is very little home or garden production of tobacco for personal use. Another deterrent to home production of tobacco is the need to age the cured tobacco for one-to-three years or longer.
The following suggestions are not based on any experience or research information, but are only the opinion of the writer. However, some producers of home-grown leaf have developed techniques for harvesting and curing that are satisfactory for them. Often they share their experiences with others.
Tobacco may be cured with heat added, or it may be air cured. There does not appear to be any practical means for the gardener to use heat to cure the tobacco because of the facilities that are required. Again, some producers of home-grown tobacco have built curing facilities and may offer them for sale.
Tobacco could be cured without heat if a building with good air circulation is available. Temperatures for air curing may range from 60-65°F up to 90-95°F, and the relative humidity of the air should be about 65-70 percent. Proper curing should take a few weeks in order to have good quality. Tobacco that cures too fast will be green and will not have a good aroma and flavor. Mold or rot may develop if curing is slow. A building that can be opened and closed as needed to control the relative humidity and drying rate is desirable. Curing procedures need to be developed for individual situations.
Harvesting could be accomplished by either removing leaves from the stalk in the field and curing them or by cutting the stalk off at ground level and hanging the entire stalk in the curing facility for the leaves to cure. The leaves would then be removed from the stalk after they have cured.
If the leaves are removed in the field, there should be four or five harvests at intervals of one-to-two weeks, starting with the lower leaves. The first harvest would be at or soon after topping and when the leaves show a slight yellowing.
If the entire stalk is cut for curing, it should be about three-to-four weeks after topping. The lower leaves would be partially deteriorated at this time. Provide adequate space between stalks to allow for satisfactory drying of the leaves.

Aging

All commercial tobacco is aged for a year or more before it is used. Unaged tobacco is harsh and does not have good flavor. For the home gardener, aging will probably be as difficult curing or even more difficult.
Aging may require as long as five-to-six years and does not occur unless temperature and moisture conditions are favorable. If the tobacco is too dry, there is no aging. If the tobacco is too moist, the leaves will decay. Unfortunately the proper temperature and moisture content vary widely.
The home producer would need the knowledge and skill to properly age the tobacco or be willing to experiment with the tobacco. The same would be true for adding flavoring agents during or after aging and before the tobacco is used.
 
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My seedlings are a little behind, size-wise, of where they were last year at planting time. I went "minimalist" this year from the start and used only natural light to germinate the seeds and raise the seedlings. They have been outside for about 2-3 weeks now and are in 9oz cups. It's getting late in the season here, and I'm at the decision point of planting at the current size or allowing them to go another two to three weeks and risking not having a long enough growing season.

I have the following varieties:
Havana 142
VA Brightleaf
CT Broadleaf
PA Broadleaf
YTB
ERGO burley
Frogs Eye orinoco
Samsun 15
Bafra------super tiny and doubt they make it to the field at all

The leaves of the seedlings are around 3" long, and there are 4 leaves on the majority of them. Sorry, no pictures, I'll try to post some if I get a chance.

Which would you do? Set them and risk loss.......wait and risk the short growing season. Average first killing frost here is October 28.
 

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I started one when FM first started this group. But time out limits resulted in me loosing a lot of what I wrote. i havn't gotten back to it. I would like to see the group as a whole put one together though. not anything that says use this seed and this soil. But something more like tobacco does best in well drained but moisture retaining soil. (damp not wet) and let each individual figure out how to get that.
 

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My basic how to grow guide equals; off your ass and on your feet, outa the shade and into the heat.
 

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My basic how to grow guide equals; off your ass and on your feet, outa the shade and into the heat.
A Year later with all due respect to new learned knowledge , my view hasn't changed much.

Every aspect is a challenge and harvesting is actualy a lot like work. Ha Ha

I always did like a challenge.
 

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This is one of the better guides I've found on the internet.

Courtesy of U.S. Department of Agriculture, Cooperative Extension Service, University of Florida, IFAS, Florida A. & M. University Cooperative Extension Program, and Boards of County Commissioners Cooperating. Millie Ferrer-Chancy, Interim Dean.


Growing Tobacco in the Home Garden


E. B. Whitty

Many homeowners wish to grow a few plants of tobacco in their yard or garden for ornamental purposes or for personal use. Tobacco plants are usually no more difficult to grow than many other garden plants, but it is difficult to cure, age, and process tobacco without specialized facilities. As a result of federal legislation in late 2005, restrictions of commercial tobacco production to quota holders are no longer in effect.
Tobacco is a member of the Solanaceae or nightshade family, which includes tomato, pepper, eggplant, Irish potato, and a number of other plants. Tobacco belongs to the genus Nicotiana, and almost all commercial tobacco is of the tabacum species. The Nicotiana rustica species was commonly used by American Indians and may still be used for ceremonial purposes in some areas. There may be small amounts of N. rustica planted commercially in Asia. A number of other species of Nicotiana serve as ornamental plants.


Soil Selection

Tobacco should be grown in a sunny location on well drained soils. Poorly drained soils could result in poor growth and even death of the plants. Tobacco can be grown on poorly drained soils if the rows or hills are bedded, and ditches or furrows are used to remove excess water.
Drought stress could limit growth on excessively drained soils unless irrigation is provided. Lack of sun will result in spindly plants, poor growth and thin leaves. Some types of tobacco -- such as that used for cigar wrappers -- are grown under some shade to promote desirable leaf characteristics.
Avoid planting tobacco on soil infested with nematodes and diseases. Do not plant tobacco on the same soil more than once every four to five years. Instead, rotate tobacco with plants that are not susceptible to common soil-borne pests of tobacco. Grasses would be excellent rotations for tobacco while tomato, pepper, and similar plants would not be suitable. In addition to soil-borne pests, several virus diseases and insects that attack tomato and pepper also attack tobacco, so try to keep those plants in different areas of the garden.
Soil pH should be about 5.8 for best growth of tobacco. If lime is needed to raise the pH, use dolomite to get the magnesium nutrient that is important for plant growth. Poor growth and some growth disorders may occur if the soil pH is about 6.5 or more.

Producing Transplants

It may be difficult to find tobacco seed of the commercial varieties since they are sold only in tobacco-producing areas. However, seed will retain viability over several years if kept under cool and dry conditions. Commercial varieties of tobacco were developed for certain characteristics that may be of little or no importance to home gardeners. A number of seed companies specialize in providing tobacco seed for growing plants in the home garden. A search of the Internet should provide information on such vendors.
Since tobacco seed are very small (300,000 or more per ounce), they should be sown in a greenhouse or in a protected area. The soil should be free of weed seed and disease organisms. A flower pot is a satisfactory container if only a few transplants are needed.
Sprinkle the seed on the soil surface, then firm the soil surface to insure good seed-to-soil contact. Pelleted seed may be available and would allow easier and more uniform placement of seed.
Irrigate with a very fine spray, or add water to a saucer under the flower pot. Add water as often as necessary to keep the soil surface moist, but avoid excessive water.
Small amounts of fertilizer will be needed to produce the transplants. A tobacco fertilizer should contain little or no chlorine, and most of the nitrogen should be in the nitrate form. Fertilizer manufactured for use on tomato, pepper, and potato should be satisfactory for tobacco.
Seed should be sown about 50-60 days prior to the desired date of transplanting. Transplanting should be after there is no further danger of freezing temperatures. Normally the best transplant is about 6-8 inches in length.

Transplanting

Transplanting tobacco is similar to transplanting for other garden plants. Bury or remove trash from the soil surface, and provide for drainage by bedding the soil. If rows are used, space the plants about 24 inches apart. Rows should be 42-48 inches apart. Water the plants immediately after transplanting and as needed during the season.

Fertilization

Fertilizers for tobacco could be the same fertilizers used for tomato, pepper, or potato. As in plant production, the fertilizer should contain little or no chlorine, and most of the nitrogen should be in the nitrate form.
In general, it would be best to apply the fertilizer in several applications. Some could be applied to the soil before transplanting, but do not place the fertilizer where it will be in high concentration around the roots of the transplants. The total amount of fertilizer to apply will depend on the grade of the fertilizer, the natural or residual fertility of the soil, losses of soluble nutrients by leaching, and perhaps other factors.
The best approach to fertilizing garden tobacco would be to apply fertilizer as needed to keep the plants growing well with a good green color. However, do not over fertilize or the plants may become too big and rank. If adequately fertilized up to the time of flowering, there should be no need to add any more fertilizer after the flowers begin to form.

Pest Control

Several pests can be problems for tobacco. Avoid nematode and other soil pest problems by proper soil selection and rotation. Weeds can be controlled by hoeing or pulling. The most common insect problems expected would be budworms, aphids and hornworms. Diseases that damage tobacco may include those that attack other plants, or they may be specific pathogens for tobacco. Identify the pest problem and consult the appropriate pest control guide for information.

Topping and Suckering

While some tobacco plants are grown around the home for ornamental purposes, which includes the flowers, plants that are grown for cured tobacco should normally be topped as soon as the flower forms. Topping -- removal of the terminal bud -- allows the upper leaves to get larger and thicker than they would in an uptopped condition. The top can be removed by breaking it out or cutting it off, preferably before any flowers open.
Soon after the top is removed (and before if topping is delayed) axillary buds or suckers develop at each leaf. The best way for the home gardener to prevent the suckers from reducing yield and quality is to remove them by hand. Suckers should be removed when they exceed about an inch in length. It may be necessary to remove suckers several times.

Harvesting and Curing

Due to the needs for proper harvesting and curing tobacco, there is very little home or garden production of tobacco for personal use. Another deterrent to home production of tobacco is the need to age the cured tobacco for one-to-three years or longer.
The following suggestions are not based on any experience or research information, but are only the opinion of the writer. However, some producers of home-grown leaf have developed techniques for harvesting and curing that are satisfactory for them. Often they share their experiences with others.
Tobacco may be cured with heat added, or it may be air cured. There does not appear to be any practical means for the gardener to use heat to cure the tobacco because of the facilities that are required. Again, some producers of home-grown tobacco have built curing facilities and may offer them for sale.
Tobacco could be cured without heat if a building with good air circulation is available. Temperatures for air curing may range from 60-65°F up to 90-95°F, and the relative humidity of the air should be about 65-70 percent. Proper curing should take a few weeks in order to have good quality. Tobacco that cures too fast will be green and will not have a good aroma and flavor. Mold or rot may develop if curing is slow. A building that can be opened and closed as needed to control the relative humidity and drying rate is desirable. Curing procedures need to be developed for individual situations.
Harvesting could be accomplished by either removing leaves from the stalk in the field and curing them or by cutting the stalk off at ground level and hanging the entire stalk in the curing facility for the leaves to cure. The leaves would then be removed from the stalk after they have cured.
If the leaves are removed in the field, there should be four or five harvests at intervals of one-to-two weeks, starting with the lower leaves. The first harvest would be at or soon after topping and when the leaves show a slight yellowing.
If the entire stalk is cut for curing, it should be about three-to-four weeks after topping. The lower leaves would be partially deteriorated at this time. Provide adequate space between stalks to allow for satisfactory drying of the leaves.

Aging

All commercial tobacco is aged for a year or more before it is used. Unaged tobacco is harsh and does not have good flavor. For the home gardener, aging will probably be as difficult curing or even more difficult.
Aging may require as long as five-to-six years and does not occur unless temperature and moisture conditions are favorable. If the tobacco is too dry, there is no aging. If the tobacco is too moist, the leaves will decay. Unfortunately the proper temperature and moisture content vary widely.
The home producer would need the knowledge and skill to properly age the tobacco or be willing to experiment with the tobacco. The same would be true for adding flavoring agents during or after aging and before the tobacco is used.
Thats a good post that could be reiterated, for next year regardless of the best FAQ sheet around.
 

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i agree, it was a good post ^^^^^^

i actually read the whole thing, it's got some good info,

but i think looking at certain threads in here, would be the best guide,
 

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TOBACCO CULTURE- THE CULTIVATORS HANDBOOK of NATURAL TOBACCO: BILL DRAKE

I purchased this book and a packet of Golden Seal Burly TA101 from a seed catalog back in 2010. I can't remember which catalog but maybe with some help from Google the book may be obtained. It was a good primer. However, our beloved forum FTT has given me a wealth of knowledge and from many many people. Aside from my own hands on learning and growing, Fair Trade Tobacco is my go to for answers and information.
 

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This thread originally led to the creation of the FTT Growers' FAQ, in March of 2012. It was assembled, commented on by many forum members, edited, then posted permanently.

http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/695-FAQ-for-Beginning-Growers

It was last updated in July of 2014. Its purpose was to provide answers to the many, many questions posted by new members.

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I knew I'd seen that before but, as for finding it again quickly when needed .... well, I could be searching for ages.
I'd really like to keep access to the link above readily accessible. Is there an easy way to 'Bookmark' it?
Can it, in fact, be Bookmarked or tagged somehow?
 

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It? Which it? The FAQ is linked at the top of every page (pdf version). The FAQ can also be found from the forum's home page, listed under the main subject: How to Grow Tobacco

Bob
 

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It? Which it? The FAQ is linked at the top of every page (pdf version). The FAQ can also be found from the forum's home page, listed under the main subject: How to Grow Tobacco

Bob
Thanks. That FAQ button was something that I was not normally drawn to push. Now that I know, great.
 

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I am in a apartment I feel the best for me is buying leaf. Its the curing part for me would be hard. At 12 dollars a pound your supporting a tobacco farmer and getting a exceptional product.
 

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I am in a apartment I feel the best for me is buying leaf. Its the curing part for me would be hard. At 12 dollars a pound your supporting a tobacco farmer and getting a exceptional product.
For you, as a North American apartment-dweller, buying whole-leaf is unarguably the best deal.
For me, living 10,000 miles from Virginia, but with a little bit of land to call my own, the whole tobacco process has become a hobby - and a worthwhile one too.
If I could guarantee the continuity of supply (independent of the tentacles of bureaucratic intervention - viz, New Zealand is likely, shortly to terminate imports of whole-leaf tobacco) I, also, probably wouldn't bother with actually growing it myself and instead concentrate on making refinements to the sweat of others.
The cost of ryo tobacco in New Zealand is now around NZ$1600 a kilogram (you can do the conversions, if you're interested - but it's a hefty price per pound) and this is enough motivation for me to engage in the rigours of seed-raising, cultivation and treatment.
 

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1 pound of tobacco is 532 USD in duties and tax, plus the cost of the tobacco and shipping were looking at close to 580 USD for a pound.

I love living in New Zealand but this nanny state has crossed a line.

Just wait Orson next thing we know they will ban growing tobacco like in AU, they already reduced allowance from 15 to 5 Kg couple years back.

Why stop there, they should just take every ones wages and supply us with a weekly food and bill allowance.
 

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its expensive in Canada and you can't buy real tobacco anymore its all blow up crap. Last batch I bought was approx. 21 or 22 dollars a pound. I agree with you. I was ordering tobacco online using my Uncle to get it sent as a gift and that loophole closed so I thought I would try whole leaf. The tobacco I was buying then was 24 a pound and now its up to 35 a pound. Then I get the taste of the 50 dollar a pound tobacco with leaf. I am not sure if I could replicate that.
 

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Just so we don't totally confuse our American friends -
You are quite correct that the cost of processed, packaged, tobacco, in NZ (over the counter) is approx. $US580 per pound.
The cost of whole leaf Tobacco (from a supplier we all know, and admire), imported into NZ from the US is (approx.) $US28.70 per pound (including freight). Notwithstanding that approximately 30% of the weight of WLT is lost as stem, it should be obvious why we would buy it.
However, my reply to Burge was to indicate that this luxury is apparently soon to come to end and, provided you have the land and the time, growing your own makes very good sense.
 

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Do we have a date for the law change regarding what processed tobacco is defined as ?

I would like to try some of Dons before it's to late
 

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Riverstone will know more about it than me but I think we're pretty close now to the death-knell - As soon as April this year.
 
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