Anyone have any "Hicks" seeds?

[Jitterbugdude]

Or possibly also called "Hicks Broadleaf". If so, let me know.

Oh, And don't confuse this request for Hicks seeds with anything you "hicks" in the south grow...

 

[SmokesAhoy]

hicks broadleaf is virginia 115 minus some resistances if that helps the search.

 

[Jitterbugdude]

Yes it does, I'm working on the ultimate mother of all chew recipes and am looking for a dark tobacco something like Hicks or Kentucky 151

 

[deluxestogie]

Randy,
I grew Little Yellow this season. It's classed as "dark-air." In the early growth, it was clearly darker than the nearby VA Bright. Of the final leaf, some of it was flue-cured, most air cured. My only experience with "dark air-cure" tobacco is with the India Dark Air that Don sent me, and that is some potent stuff which is useful for amping up a cigar. The Little Yellow is lighter in color, and tasty, but seems much milder than the Indian counterpart.

I'll see what's hanging, and send you a sample of the leaf. Seed for Little Yellow is currently drying.

Bob

 

[SmokesAhoy]

i was under the impression the 115/hicks was a brightleaf, the va-359 is a darkleaf of (self reported) high potency

 

[skychaser]

I have several that I believe are classified as dark types if you want some seed from them. KY 190, Madole, One Sucker, Small Stalk Black Mammoth, Shirey, Stag Horn and Goose Creek Red. Ain't no Hicks here though, e'cept fer me.

 

[Jitterbugdude]

I have grown Va312 and Sears Special, both dark tobaccos. Truth be told, I'm playing around with the idea of making a chew that can actually be called healthy. Much like you would call taking Vitamin C healthy.
More later but basically the darker the leaf the more polyphenols. The predominate polyphenol that has all the health benefits to it is chlorogenic acid. This is the same polyphenol found in coffee and is responsible for major reductions in Type 2 Diabetes, strokes and heart disease. So far I found that Hicks and Kentucky 152 have the highest level. I'm not going to get too concerned about finding Hicks, I'll probabyl just settle on any dark tobacco and call it a day.

Bob, take your time but yeah I'd like to try some Little Yellow.

 

[istanbulin]

Man, did you find any Hicks Broadleaf seeds ? I was reading an article today which was published in early 70s when blue mold (Peronospora tabacina) was still a big headache among tobacco growing countries and so for Turkey. I saw that researchers used Hicks Broadleaf to compare its resistance to blue mold and growing behaviour with officially registered Turkish varieties - both resistant and sensitive to blue mold. It was a quite interesting paper so I searched "Hicks" on the forum and saw your thread here.

EDIT: Varieties they used in the paper are Hicks 321 and Hicks 131 and both of them are resistant to blue mold.

 

[Jitterbugdude]

I abandoned my search for Hicks. Mainly becasue the other Dark tobaccos I've grown were too strong for my tastes
I knows some "Hicks " that live in Alabama

 

[JessicaNicot]

Yes it does, I'm working on the ultimate mother of all chew recipes and am looking for a dark tobacco something like Hicks or Kentucky 151

hicks isn't dark- its flue-cured. hicks broadleaf is a line derived from hicks, but also flue-cured. if you want dark, you'll want to look for certain Kentucky varieties (but not all as some are burley I think) or little Crittenden or narrow leaf madole.

 

[JessicaNicot]

Man, did you find any Hicks Broadleaf seeds ? I was reading an article today which was published in early 70s when blue mold (Peronospora tabacina) was still a big headache among tobacco growing countries and so for Turkey. I saw that researchers used Hicks Broadleaf to compare its resistance to blue mold and growing behaviour with officially registered Turkish varieties - both resistant and sensitive to blue mold. It was a quite interesting paper so I searched "Hicks" on the forum and saw your thread here.

EDIT: Varieties they used in the paper are Hicks 321 and Hicks 131 and both of them are resistant to blue mold.

that's interesting that they kept the hicks name associated with their derived resistant lines (which likely contain a genomic introgression from another species, correct?). plain "hicks" is the susceptible check used in almost all disease trials for tobacco.

 

[jekylnz]

I've heard about chlorogenic acid helping with weight loss to (green coffee bean extract)

 

[istanbulin]

that's interesting that they kept the hicks name associated with their derived resistant lines (which likely contain a genomic introgression from another species, correct?). plain "hicks" is the susceptible check used in almost all disease trials for tobacco.

There's also another variety related with the line 321 in the paper, Hicks-special 321/4. If the paper is not in Turkish I'd send it to you, but it seems fruitless BTW, according to results in the paper, Hicks 131 is located on the limit of being susceptible to blue mold so I guess the 131 is not the best resistant line.