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balkan sobranie cigarettes 10 to a white tin (Old style)

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To add the quality of Dons leaf will be equal or better than the links I posted and at a fraction of the cost. Here is a mix of what it contains in the next post and you can have recreating the blend with whole leaf https://paylesscigarsandpipes.com/balkan-sobranie-original-mixture Latakia Oriental and Virginia and another site suggest perique. Have fun blending guys.
 

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To add my guess would be as a starting point would be 40% Virginia 40% Turkish 10% Latakia and 10% Perique Another is 45 Turkish Virginia and 10% Latakia
 
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Welcome to the forum. Feel free to introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself forum.

My experience with Balkan Sobranie cigarettes dates back to the early and mid 1970s. Yenidje leaf then as now, was not grown in Yenidje (Genice) Greece, but rather, up the valley in area of Xanthi. (Yenidje leaf was famous in the mid 19th century, then the town was obliterated by flooding mid-century. But the fame has lived on.) Yenidje leaf is Xanthi leaf, which is a Basma-type Oriental. There are some seed vendors that sell a uniquely labeled tobacco that they call Yenidje, and some of our forum members are confident that it is different from typical Xanthi-Yaka tobacco.

The closest to commercial "Yenidje" leaf that I've sampled in recent decades is the "Stacked Basma" currently available from Whole Leaf Tobacco: https://www.wholeleaftobacco.com/product/stacked-basma-whole-leaf-turkish-tobacco/

With regard to vintage tobaccos, my experience has been that tobacco quality peaks at about 10 years, then slowly fades. (It's a race between the volatilization of "detractors" and "enhancers".) Twenty-year-old vintage cigars (properly stored) are still "nice", but nearly always a disappointment.

Bob
Thank you so much for the welcome and your knowledge of the Yenidje tobacco. I hope to enjoy these vintage smokes over time and find something close when I run out. I will look up that Stacked basma blend. Steve
 
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I really like Balkan Sobranie cigarettes also. We've been tweaking our blend for five years and with the introduction of the Stacked Basma to the blend, I we've gotten as close as we're going to get to recreating the original blend.

https://www.wholeleaftobacco.com/product/balkan-blend/
Thank you for your input and link to the blend you suggest. It would be interesting to do a side by side test. Perhaps I will try. Steve
 
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Tobacco is like wine and gets better with age. The marketing term use on tobacco is Fresh. Now it has to be exceptional tobacco to get better with age. Pipe tobacco has Balkan Sobranie not sure if it is the same or not. That blend was brought back. https://www.pipesandcigars.com/shop/?q=balkan+sobranie and https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-tobacco/mac-baren/HH-Balkan-Blend-16oz/product_id/290715en there are the copies https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-tobacco/Balkan-Sasieni/Balkan-Sasieni-50g/product_id/174
These cigs must have been kept in a very good environment, because they are in perfect condition and the aroma is just other-worldly. Has a very flowery scent, like jasmine mixed with daffodils or something then the tobacco back notes. Steve
 

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That is the beauty of whole leaf you can try things out. I Googled it to what makes up a smoke and pipe blends and cigarettes and I think I am pretty good at blending. There is no such thing as a blend of old when you can create one with whole leaf.
 
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Russian Sobranie cigarettes are still available, are these similar to the Balkan? (now made by the Gallaher group)
No, they are different. I used to smoke the Original Sobranie Black Russians as well. They are filtered and apparently did not have the same blend as the " pure yenidje" filterless variety.
 

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These cigs must have been kept in a very good environment, because they are in perfect condition and the aroma is just other-worldly. Has a very flowery scent, like jasmine mixed with daffodils or something then the tobacco back notes. Steve
I posted those links cause they have the tobaccos in certain blends. Not the percentage but I may be gifted that way. All the information is out there on blends or types of tobacco that goes into them. WLT is the best leaf around
 
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