burley or virginia like lower throat shot
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Are you blending the two together?
Virginia bites on the tongue, burley hits in the throat. A neutral blend will sort of cancel out both. WLT offers a casing you can spray on. It's best to shred first so the casing doesn't gum up the cutters.
Virginia bites on the tongue, burley hits in the throat. A neutral blend will sort of cancel out both. WLT offers a casing you can spray on. It's best to shred first so the casing doesn't gum up the cutters.
You can toast burley in an oven. Some commercial cigarette manufacturers use toasted burley.
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You can also make a topping with chocolate syrup and toast the burley.
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Toasted Burley. I received a sample of some aged and toasted Burley today and all I can say is Wow! This weekend, I'll be working on creating blends using this Burley, Flue Cured Threshed and Turkish Izmir along with different casings. This tobacco is 8 years old and smoked straight, it is...
You can also make a topping with chocolate syrup and toast the burley.
Hershey's syrup recipe
Hand shred the tobacco and spread it out on a cookie sheet (about 10 leaves de-ribbed), spray it with 1/2 oz. sugar water and 1t. cocoa powder or Hershey's syrup (1T. to 1oz water). Roast in preheated 250° F for 10 minutes or until the tobacco is crumble dry. Remove the sheet and...
Cooking burley into Cavendish significantly tames it.
Bob
Bob
Hit, pinch, shot, bite. I'm not sure we are all talking about the same thing.
Flue-cured tobacco causes tongue bite (toward the tip of the tongue) because of its lower pH (greater acidity).
Burley causes "throat hit" because of a combination of its much higher nicotine and higher pH (lower acidity).
When you blend the two, that moderates the nicotine of the burley and moderates the pH of the flue-cured.
Adding assorted casings—and their effect on our perception—is beyond my knowledge.
Are you asking with regard to
Flue-cured tobacco causes tongue bite (toward the tip of the tongue) because of its lower pH (greater acidity).
Burley causes "throat hit" because of a combination of its much higher nicotine and higher pH (lower acidity).
When you blend the two, that moderates the nicotine of the burley and moderates the pH of the flue-cured.
Adding assorted casings—and their effect on our perception—is beyond my knowledge.
Are you asking with regard to
- home-grown, home finished tobacco
- commercial whole leaf
- commercial processed shred?
Hi, thanks for this info. This is what I like in smoking, the throat hit. So is there a way to increase the ph and lower acidity with some processing or its solely to the tobacco breed. This season I grow Golden Virginia and Tennessee and they don't have satisfying throat kick so far although I have dryed just a few leafs that are yellow.
Last year I grew Canadian Virginia Light and some perfectly looking leafs dindn't have a throat feel at all, meanwhile some others that I didn't cure properly were green and with awful taste but with decent throat hit.
Alpine
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The strain as well as the agricultural practice both influence taste and “strength” (AKA “throat hit”) of tobacco. A dark air cured and some old school burleys, if fed appropriately, aggressively topped and harvested at full ripeness can literally make you spit your lungs out.
Try Green Brior (for burley) and Negro black (for dark air cured), both available at https://northwoodseeds.com/Seed List2.htm
next year.
The most hard “throat hitter” I’ve grown was a bright leaf (white mammoth) that I topped very early, way too low (at the 10th leaf) and let ripen until ALL the leaves turned yellow. I tell you, that’s a manly smoke, not for the nicotine content that is… uhmm…let’s say… well noticeable but the “strength” of the smoke is nearly unbearable (for me at least, and I do add N. rustica as a normal component in my daily blend).
I cannot even think what kind of lung bomb I could have harvested if, instead of a (usually mild) bright leaf strain, I treated that way an heirloom dark baccy.
pier
Try Green Brior (for burley) and Negro black (for dark air cured), both available at https://northwoodseeds.com/Seed List2.htm
next year.
The most hard “throat hitter” I’ve grown was a bright leaf (white mammoth) that I topped very early, way too low (at the 10th leaf) and let ripen until ALL the leaves turned yellow. I tell you, that’s a manly smoke, not for the nicotine content that is… uhmm…let’s say… well noticeable but the “strength” of the smoke is nearly unbearable (for me at least, and I do add N. rustica as a normal component in my daily blend).
I cannot even think what kind of lung bomb I could have harvested if, instead of a (usually mild) bright leaf strain, I treated that way an heirloom dark baccy.
pier
@Alpine , Thanks, I will check this sorts. I don't want to nuke my throat, it is just what I have grown so far smokes like fresh air :d . I have smoked burley tobacco bought from one American site and if it was just a bit less harsh would be ideal for me. I already have Nicotiana rustica seeds, will plant them next year and will try to do my best now with the drying and fermenting. As for the feeding I have put lots of sheep and goat fertilizer. Plants are looking good. I will post them tomorrow.
Alpine
Moderator
In terms of “throat hit” do not expect much from N.rusticas. Rusticas do have a high nicotine content, but the smoke is very mild, with a pleasant floral taste (jasmine, I dare to say) but no impact on the throat. They can make your head spin though… If the burley you tasted was harsh, it’s because it was not kilned (or aged) enough: properly kilned (or aged) burley do have a positive “throat hit” but no harshness at all. If you still have some of it, put it in a kiln, or let it age a few months more. Kilning (or time) can do wonders for tobacco.
pier
pier
