China Voodoo 2020 Grow
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Large hail means fewer bits, resulting in really bad luck for a relatively small number of plants. Large hail resembles a cannonball, rather than buckshot.
Bob
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ChinaVoodoo
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I swung by the house this morning and everything is a-ok. 50 blocks away by the condo, there's a tree down. Luck of the draw? Or maybe being in the valley means less weather.
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Oldfella
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Hey China,
Is the grub in your post no: 64 one of those Horn Worm things. I don't want them they're pretty cheeky hide under the table and pop up for a feed every now and then.
Do you have a lot, like are they a problem or not?
Oldfella.
I’m thinking cutworm.
Insects - Cutworms
Biology Black cutworm (Agrostis ipsilon) damage on newly planted tobacco. Photo: Sterling Southern A number of cutworm species are present in North Carolina and can potentially feed on tobacco. These include the variegated cutworm (Peridroma saucia), black cutworm (Agrotis ipsilon), and spotted...
Here is a hornworm.
Tobacco Hornworm | Burley Tobacco Extension
The tobacco hornworms (Manduca sexta Linn.) can be distinguished from the tomato hornworm by the seven diagonal white stripes and the curved red horn. The tobacco hornworm can be very destructive by chewing large irregular holes in a tobacco leaf. (Phot by Ben Meredith, ANR agent for Woodford...
This is a bud worm. They cut the growth bud so you have to let a sucker grow up as the new main stem
Budworm | Burley Tobacco Extension
Budworms are often difficult to kill due to protection from the bud. Damage to small bud leaves can be significant if budworm infestation is high. Buds can be damaged beyond recovery by budworms.
Oldfella
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Thank you for that info. I had a quick look and have it filed away in my many things file.I’m thinking cutworm.
Insects - Cutworms
Biology Black cutworm (Agrostis ipsilon) damage on newly planted tobacco. Photo: Sterling Southern A number of cutworm species are present in North Carolina and can potentially feed on tobacco. These include the variegated cutworm (Peridroma saucia), black cutworm (Agrotis ipsilon), and spotted...tobacco.ces.ncsu.edu
Here is a hornworm.
Tobacco Hornworm | Burley Tobacco Extension
The tobacco hornworms (Manduca sexta Linn.) can be distinguished from the tomato hornworm by the seven diagonal white stripes and the curved red horn. The tobacco hornworm can be very destructive by chewing large irregular holes in a tobacco leaf. (Phot by Ben Meredith, ANR agent for Woodford...burleytobaccoextension.ca.uky.edu
This is a bud worm. They cut the growth bud so you have to let a sucker grow up as the new main stem
I dunno if you guys got more bugs than us or what. Most of my bugs are White Butter fly catapilers. Aphids, slugs, snails, all pretty much control able with free ranging chickens. Ah well enough for now.
Oldfella.
ChinaVoodoo
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I lost 5 plants to them. They are called cut worms. They live underground. They'll eat anything but do the most damage when they don't even surface, but remain just under, and perform the old Paul Bunyan maneuver. When you see evidence you have to scrape and dig the dirt to find them.
They have a short window, which is now over, and I had extra plants to replace the fallen.
ChinaVoodoo
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I have a lesser variety of pests than the Americans. I don't get hornworms. Only seen one in my life on my aunt's tomato plant in Kelowna where its much warmer.
Slugs don't really do much damage to tobacco and I find the packages of slug bait annihilate them if I need to. They devastates po-ta-toes. I hates them.
Aphids will be a problem on unbagged flowers which is just the oriental tobaccos.
Oldfella
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I've never seen a hornworm either, don't really want to. As you say slugs, snails and even the green catapilers are not major problems for me. Wind damage is the killer. As most of my tobacco gets shredded for ciggies anyway.What's a few holes?
Oldfella
Edit If the Aphids get to be a problem, soapy water spraying sorts it out. Otherwise they will fall off dead as the leaves are handled.
Cheer's
You are right, thankfully the slugs are not a danger for our little plants (pictures from this year).
You can see that I have even decided to use some bait... early in the season... but they did not seem to be interested by it (I had to go hunt for them by night a few times to reduce their number, or I would have not many plants left...)
And now we have grasshopers...
Oldfella
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Can't win can you. Still, I think you'll get a good crop in the end though. You seem to have more Slugs & Snails than I do. Chickens are what you need.
Oldfella
Chickens (and ducks) are an option we are thinking about for a long time, but it involves more work in the garden... but... maybe...
I do not worry, the slugs did not eat everything
It's nature, we have to share a bit with our neighbors.
I do not worry, the slugs did not eat everything
It's nature, we have to share a bit with our neighbors.
I miss my chickens. I let them free range in the yard for some really cool pets and insect control but the owls got them.Chickens (and ducks) are an option we are thinking about for a long time, but it involves more work in the garden... but... maybe...
I do not worry, the slugs did not eat everything
ChinaVoodoo
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We must have different slugs or something.
I think the French slugs are in Quebec.
Bob
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They don't look the same. Mine don't have such big eye stalks or antennae or whatever those are, and they don't have that flat leech-like bottom. They are more cylindrical.
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