This discussion deserved its own thread. GM714 was right.
Bob
Bob
Personally I believe and maybe Bob can clarify it has everything to do with the quality of the leaf in my opinion. I mean you could get the same leaf that is mass produced and It tastes okay but not great. I believe if you take the same seed same soil and look after that leaf I would be of the opinion tha that leaf will taste better. It all in how the leaf is prepared. .
... but the question is have you tried the same tobacco name from other suppliers? ie Bursa if leaf only had bursa? I have had the Canadian from there and there is no comparison between Dons lemon. The Canadian while cosmetically perfect tastes mass produced and there is no complexity in the flavor. Then you begin to get the real tastes for sampling.
... another method I found out is by freezing the tobacco. When you do that it brings the moisture out and when it thaws that moisture is reabsorbed into the leaf. That is best accomplished in the vapor proof bags.
Yes and no. The name was given by the people in the Rhodope mountains. This was the first seed (Burley of old ) that had arrived in the Empire from Spain. Later it found a better home at higher altitudes (smokeability). The people at first called it "Mjumjun's seed" by the name of the farmer who first planted it in the mountain. Later they started to call it "Enidzhe", meaning "a seed from the village of Enidzhe". Pretty typical naming schemata.It originated far down-valley from Xanthi, in the town of Yenidje (today, Genisee or Yenice), which was destroyed in the mid 19th century by catastrophic flooding. Tobacco production then moved upslope to the Xanthi region
Dear Wiktor,
Djebels (Yenidje) are best for smoking straight, Yakis (Krumovgrad, Xanthi, Mahala) for blending. With Yakis you can lower the amount of Oriental, while preserving the amount of flavor; while upping the Virginia content, thus increasing the fullness (the interplay between taste and aroma). Orientals in general lack taste, they are being grown for aroma.
Ignore the fact that many blends contain "Yenidje". This is a marketing term. The only true Yenidje, the one that received world recognition hundreds of year ago , is grown in Bulgaria, renamed for political purposes to Djebel Basma, thus increasing confusion in an already confusing matter. Although many modern day blenders use this tobacco, this is wrong. I would use Krumovgrad or Xanthi for blending.
For testing purposes I would approach Yaki Basma as Burley. Filtered cob, filled to the top, smoking only the first 1/3-1/2. For blending I wouldn't exceed 20%, even with my love and addiction to Orientals. 12.5% is a classic percent. You had mentioned 4 Orientals in your blend, any chance for another Yaki in there? Does your blend also contain Burley? Yaki Basma should be used with light hand and counter balanced with lots of Virginia. It's full packed with aroma, so this is not a problem. Did you let the blend sit for a month before trying?
Krumovgrad is the right tobacco to use if you have some Syrian lying around for some “taste of old”. The cumin like spiciness further opens and enhances the pineness and wet-forestness of Syrian (what words ... ).
I wouldn't blame leafonly for not understanding Orientals, very few people do. Yes, it came from the same seed as Yenidje (350 years ago) but no, not the same tobacco.
I noticed you had mentioned Peter Stocklbye tobacco I used to smoke the Danish. That is aged by moistening drying and repeat and the tobacco is 6 years old.
So you have paired some tobaccos with high Wiktor Index with some Burley. Use your index as a reference.
Also, I would like to know how do you know about "tobacco is 6 years old" this?