Deluxestogie Grow Log 2020
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Yikes! That's an entire crop selection of tobacco grow-out. It's curious, in the Rindi photo I just posted, that the plant on the far right appears to be a different phenotype, and none of the blossom heads are bagged. Mix-n-match seed.
Bob
Bob
ChinaVoodoo
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Regarding all the photos, the one on the far left seems to have wider leaves (or not as long).
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Wanokaka looks like kasturi. Tutu only had pictures of stunted plants that weren't harvested, but the leaf shape looks right and he said it was very potent.
My Kasturi
Wanokaka
Umalulu looks like a short columnar plant with small leaves and extensive suckering. It appears to be uniform, but his photos are just of harvested stalks.
Loli looks like a small pyramidal plant.
Tabije, I think is from the Philippines. I keep all the letters I get from forum members in one place, but I don't know where that place is.
My Kasturi
Wanokaka
Umalulu looks like a short columnar plant with small leaves and extensive suckering. It appears to be uniform, but his photos are just of harvested stalks.
Loli looks like a small pyramidal plant.
Tabije, I think is from the Philippines. I keep all the letters I get from forum members in one place, but I don't know where that place is.
That's what I look like when I smile, while drawing on my cornstalk sitter pipe.
Bob
Zeta remnants are just now passing beyond my part of the state. It has not been too bad here, other than some minor flooding so far.
I've been worried about the branch above where I park my car. A different, sleeper branch came down instead. That tiny fragment of the branch that is blocking my car from backing out turned out to be a bit heavy for me to carry away, so I had to just pivot it out of the car's path. The major part of the branch is about 1 foot thick. My eldest brother will come out next week (when the weather is supposed to be nice), and bring a chain saw and a 4WD pickup.
Lately, I had been admiring how resonant the sound of a woodpecker had become in that tree.
Bob
I've been worried about the branch above where I park my car. A different, sleeper branch came down instead. That tiny fragment of the branch that is blocking my car from backing out turned out to be a bit heavy for me to carry away, so I had to just pivot it out of the car's path. The major part of the branch is about 1 foot thick. My eldest brother will come out next week (when the weather is supposed to be nice), and bring a chain saw and a 4WD pickup.
Lately, I had been admiring how resonant the sound of a woodpecker had become in that tree.
Bob
GreenDragon
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When I was a student at TA&M we were experiencing a very hot dry summer. Finally, we had a big rainstorm come through and dump a ton of rain in a few hours one afternoon. About two hours after the storms moved out of the area, I heard a huge CRASH come from outside the lab building. I looked out the window and the large China Berry tree (which are evil BTW) which people fought to park under due to the scarcity of shade, had split in half from the sudden weight of all the water it had sucked up. Half was on one professor's car, the other half on another. I have since seen similar occurrences through the years. Oaks seem particularly susceptible, and Cherry Laurels.
My car escaped damage as the student lots had very few trees
My car escaped damage as the student lots had very few trees
It's curious that we are enthralled by the beauty of autumn leaf color changes. This happens every year. The leaves change color, and die, then fall off the tree. Yet we regard the trunk and branches of a tree as "permanent", rather than the expected and transient nature (albeit on a different time scale) of all trees. And when we deprive trees, which evolved as members of a forest community, of any nearby neighbors, we do to them what overabundance of food has done to us. They overeat the abundant resources, and are less healthy as a result. Despite creating unhealthy trees, we place valuable structures and objects (cars, houses, etc.) beneath them.
So, my huge, 150+ year old silver maples are like slow motion mushrooms.
Bob
So, my huge, 150+ year old silver maples are like slow motion mushrooms.
Bob
My two tobacco plants that have remained in the field reached the end of their outdoor journey today. We've got nearly a week of intermittant hard freezes ahead. So today, I cut both plant tops (already bagged), leaving a longer than usual portion of stalk. These are now hung in my enclosed back porch.
The Ainaro head really hasn't formed a bud head yet. The Liquiça tried several weeks ago, and got partially clobbered by two nights of frost, even though they were bagged. Below, you can see at least two seed pods forming. So I think I will have some seed from this.
Since I potted one of the two Ainaro several weeks ago, I am confident that the potted one will produce seed--eventually.
Bob
The Ainaro head really hasn't formed a bud head yet. The Liquiça tried several weeks ago, and got partially clobbered by two nights of frost, even though they were bagged. Below, you can see at least two seed pods forming. So I think I will have some seed from this.
Since I potted one of the two Ainaro several weeks ago, I am confident that the potted one will produce seed--eventually.
Bob
That was my post from March 10, 2020. Highlight is mine from today.
Today is the big day--7 months later. Big events for today:
- My new supply (another 500) of 12" Fuzzy Sticks will arrive today.
- I'm following @GreenDragon's careful directions on baking a loaf of bread with my sluggish sourdough starter.
- I'm planning to go to bed early tonight, and sleep soundly.
GreenDragon
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Sounds like a great day to me! I enjoyed a pipe of Nestled Pebble last night myself.
Hope the bread turns out well - Steve
Hope the bread turns out well - Steve
Bob
It is a beautiful day here today. Cloudless sky, with temperatures in the mid 50's. I took a stroll down my road.
Staring into the sun.
Since it is a bit chilly for my old bones, I selected a corduroy face mask to keep my cheeks toasty. It's reversible. The other side is made from faded olive Dockers. Both fabric scraps are about 20 years old.
Bob
Staring into the sun.
Since it is a bit chilly for my old bones, I selected a corduroy face mask to keep my cheeks toasty. It's reversible. The other side is made from faded olive Dockers. Both fabric scraps are about 20 years old.
Bob
I now have the early primings from sun-cured Ainaro in my kiln. I should have some idea what it is in early 2021.
Bob
Bob
Tutu
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Very interested in hearing how it smokes. I've smoked Liquiça and Ainaro years ago when I grew them in Indonesia. Great that the seed-process is ongoing!
Prilep 66-9/7 sun-cured
This is most of my Prilep from this year. As each leaf sun-cured, hanging on the stalk, I transferred it to a bushel basket in my curing shed. All the leaf from about 6 plants, contained now in this large bag, comes to about ½ pound. So a little over 1 ounce of cured leaf per plant--in a truly crummy growing season.
The bag will go into the kiln for two months, when I begin the next kiln batch in early 2021.
Bob
This is most of my Prilep from this year. As each leaf sun-cured, hanging on the stalk, I transferred it to a bushel basket in my curing shed. All the leaf from about 6 plants, contained now in this large bag, comes to about ½ pound. So a little over 1 ounce of cured leaf per plant--in a truly crummy growing season.
The bag will go into the kiln for two months, when I begin the next kiln batch in early 2021.
Bob
I didn't think you usually kilned your Orientals. What is the outcome you are after?Prilep 66-9/7 sun-cured
This is most of my Prilep from this year. As each leaf sun-cured, hanging on the stalk, I transferred it to a bushel basket in my curing shed. All the leaf from about 6 plants, contained now in this large bag, comes to about ½ pound. So a little over 1 ounce of cured leaf per plant--in a truly crummy growing season.
The bag will go into the kiln for two months, when I begin the next kiln batch in early 2021.
Bob
I kiln all my Oriental tobacco. Since I don't have a warehouse in Turkey, in which to age bales of Orientals, I kiln it. The outcome is well aged Oriental leaf. The only leaf I do not routinely kiln is leaf that has been flue-cured. I kiln just about everything else: burley, Maryland, dark air-cured, primitives, Orientals, cigar varieties.
Bob
EDIT: If I kiln flue-cured VA Bright, I end up with something that resembles WLT's Double-Bright.
Bob
EDIT: If I kiln flue-cured VA Bright, I end up with something that resembles WLT's Double-Bright.
I should clarify that my previous post relates to my home-grown leaf (and direct from tobacco farm leaf that has only been air-cured). I do not routinely kiln leaf from WLT, since it is already well aged.
It's probably a waste of time to kiln leaf that is to be made into Cavendish. Perique process is usually begun with leaf that has just color-cured.
Bob
I have kilned home-fired Latakia, and the kilning improved the leaf. But it also imparted a fire-cured aroma to everything else that was inside the kiln (and inside my house!) at the time.
It's probably a waste of time to kiln leaf that is to be made into Cavendish. Perique process is usually begun with leaf that has just color-cured.
Bob
I have kilned home-fired Latakia, and the kilning improved the leaf. But it also imparted a fire-cured aroma to everything else that was inside the kiln (and inside my house!) at the time.
Good to know! I was under the mistaken impression that sun curing was the end of the process, at least for turkish. I'll throw the rest of mine in the kiln now too.
While I have you on the topic of perique, I have some air cured Delhi 34 (a flue cure variety) that I don't expect much from, do you suppose it would make reasonable perique?
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