Fertilizer calculations, (if you're into that kinda thing)

[ChinaVoodoo]

So. According to the charts, we should have in medium rich soil that's two feet deep with little rain, 70-80, 60-100, & 100-150.

To get 80 N with 1-1-1, you would need 80/0.01= 8000lbs/acre = 8320g/100 square feet.

You would probably want to top up the potash.

 

[Yultanman]

Eeek yes youre right. That was from memory which was obviously flawed.
I get about 5kg per 100sq ft give or take depending on what yoy want to compromise. But it is early so take it with a grain of salt

 

[Yultanman]

You would probably want to top up the potash.

Yes and yes. I did go with the 50 pounds/acre so the low end

 

[Knucklehead]

How do these numbers tie in with something like Crimson clover as a cover crop? If Crimson Clover fixes 70 to 150 lb. per acre of nitrogen is that too much or not enough? Outside Pride states:

• Sowing Rate: 1/2 lb - 3/4 lb per 1,000 square feet or 20 to 30 lbs per acre
• Biomass. As a winter annual, crimson clover can produce 3,500 to 5,500 lb and fix nitro 70 to 150 lb
• Beneficial habitat and nectar sourcel
• Mixtures. Crimson clover grows well in mixtures with small grains, grasses and other clovers.

Bulk Crimson Clover Seed For Planting Pastures, Cover Crop, and more

Crimson Clover is the fastest growing of the annual clovers, easy to establish from seeds, and handles shade well. Grown for cover crops, erosion control, silage, forage, food plots. Crimson clover has a bright red flower head. Trifolium Incarnatum clover.

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[deluxestogie]

It seems to me that you would have to plow it under before it blossoms bloom (i.e. no "nectar source"). Otherwise you are playing wack-a-mole all growing season.

Bob

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

How do these numbers tie in with something like Crimson clover as a cover crop? If Crimson Clover fixes 70 to 150 lb. per acre of nitrogen is that too much or not enough? Outside Pride states:

• Sowing Rate: 1/2 lb - 3/4 lb per 1,000 square feet or 20 to 30 lbs per acre
• Biomass. As a winter annual, crimson clover can produce 3,500 to 5,500 lb and fix nitro 70 to 150 lb
• Beneficial habitat and nectar sourcel
• Mixtures. Crimson clover grows well in mixtures with small grains, grasses and other clovers.

Bulk Crimson Clover Seed For Planting Pastures, Cover Crop, and more

Crimson Clover is the fastest growing of the annual clovers, easy to establish from seeds, and handles shade well. Grown for cover crops, erosion control, silage, forage, food plots. Crimson clover has a bright red flower head. Trifolium Incarnatum clover.

www.outsidepride.com

There's a number of studies I've read regarding green manure and tobacco which come out of China. They use various plants. Either way, it appears that its advantageous and significantly reduces the amount of additional fertilizer which is necessary.

 

[Darkthirty]

Anyone concerned with sulfate of potash as opposed to muriate of potash?

 

[deluxestogie]

Anyone concerned with sulfate of potash as opposed to muriate of potash?

Potash = potassium. Muriate = chloride. Potassium sulfate vs. potassium chloride. It's the chlorine that presents a problem (diminished combustibility).

Bob

 

[Darkthirty]

Potash = potassium. Muriate = chloride. Potassium sulfate vs. potassium chloride. It's the chlorine that presents a problem (diminished combustibility).

Bob

Found a local grain elevator that will order some for me, Hard to find in Northern Indiana

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

That's odd. I just get it at the greenhouse or the hydroponic store.