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First attempt at growing tobacco (Burley) need advice please.

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Burley is traditionally air cured in the shade. I think it is prone to sun burn and if it does cure, sun curing can alter the typical burley flavor. You may or may not like the result.
Thanks Knucklehead. It was sopping wet from the storm and I wasn't quite sure what to do with it.. It's a bit dryer now so I'll set up some wires tomorrow and hang it up in the rafters. The rest of the plants aren't ready to cut yet, but it's not a bad idea to get the wires set up now.
 

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This stretch of coast where I live in Spain, has just gone on high alert for the "Gota Fria". That (if it arrives), involves torrential rain, hailstones, high winds and flooding. Cars floating down the streets and underground car parks flooded up to the ceilings. I've moved my plants under cover and I guess I'll see if my roof repairs this summer hold up. Most years it's not that bad, but we are due a big one soon, hopefully not this year.
 

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I seem to have repelled the whitefly for the time being. I have topped the burley early and am waiting to see a bit of tip yellowing on the top leaves before I do anything else (I'm sure I've read, no fertilizer from now on?). Since topping, the top leaves have increased in size rapidly. The top third of the plants look really healthy, but some of the lower leaves that are almost white are beginning to show damp light brown/pink areas and a few have just turned light brown/pink, drooped and fallen off. I don't know if this is the result of the whitefly or any of the numerous mistakes I have made. I assume these leaves are dying or dead and should be removed?
I'm going to prime the white/yellow leaves that still look alive and hang them for coloring/curing in a separate area to see later on if they are smokable.
On the other hand the virginia is coming along well. Large green healthy leaves and growing rapidly. Most plants have 13-15 leaves now. I'm not sure at what stage they will begin to flower, but I'm beginning to learn patience.
As usual, any tips or advice welcome.
 

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I don't know about now, but the same treatment I use for aphid control also works for whiteflys. I would recommend this at your next planting. Use it with the transplant water into the soil when you transplant the seedlings into your big pots, not as a foliar application. If sprayed on leaves, it can kill bees. We use it in the soil up to two weeks after transplant.

This is the brand we use, if you can find it where you are. This is labeled for fruits and vegetables. They have other formulas so watch which you buy. You want garden safe.

Active ingredient is imidacloprid.


 

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Thanks for the links Knucklehead. Imidaclorid seems to have been banned in Europe, although I have found a couple of online shops that sell it as a spray. I'll keep looking as I want to be able to use it when I transplant on the second grow.
I seem to be able to keep the whitefly at bay just using soapy water on this grow. It's the next grow that I want to be better prepared for.
 

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Over the last week and a half I have primed the yellow/white lower leaves on the burley plants and hung them. Things look to be going in the right direction. Leaves slowly going yellow then brown. The largest leaves are only 7"- 8" long, but these plants were stunted right from the beginning. Since topping, the remaining top leaves on the plants are getting larger by the day and no white/yellow mottling. As soon as the tips start yellowing I'll stalk harvest them.
 

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“Outside the EU”……….
Stick with Skychaser. I’m so used to his seeds, I had some Amazon seeds take a full 7 days to germinate, and I was wondering what was wrong!
If you have trouble with getting your stuff through Spanish customs, let me know via PM. German customs is far more reasonable, and inside the EU.
KY17 is a 4% nicotine plant with high yields. Might be the one you’re looking for
Look what arrived today. They took a month to get here, but no trouble with Spanish customs which was my main concern. Thanks again for your offer johnny108. Very pleased that I never had to use it.

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Growing things is my passion. And the soil is my focus.
If you have clay like this, adding sand only makes concrete :)
Add as much organic material as you can. Compost, decomposed leaves, grass clippings etc.

If you have the room, get a garbage pail and fill it with weeds, then fill it with water and put the lid on and come back 6 weeks later.
It will smell terrible, but use the water, dilute it 5 parts clean water to 1 part fetid swamp water and use this to water your tobacco once per week.
 

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Growing things is my passion. And the soil is my focus.
If you have clay like this, adding sand only makes concrete :)
Add as much organic material as you can. Compost, decomposed leaves, grass clippings etc.

If you have the room, get a garbage pail and fill it with weeds, then fill it with water and put the lid on and come back 6 weeks later.
It will smell terrible, but use the water, dilute it 5 parts clean water to 1 part fetid swamp water and use this to water your tobacco once per week.
Bark and wood chips seem to be a pretty good addition for tobacco, too.
I have 2 plants in orchid bark mixes, and they seem immune to overwatering.
 

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I stalk harvested the Burley last week. A little early, but we have high humidity here at the moment, and they seem to be yellowing up okay.
Some of the lugs I hung about 3 weeks ago are brown and dry. I couldn't wait any longer so shredded one and had a smoke. A little bit raw, but has that distinctive burley taste. Can't believe I have smoked my first ciggie made with tobacco I have grown. Life doesn't get any better.
Hoping to get a good quantity of Virginia somewhen in October. Plants look very healthy. Thanks to everyone for their advice and help.
 

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Three weeks since I stalk harvested the few stunted Burley plants and they seem to be curing fine.
I'm now wondering what to do with the twelve Virginia plants. I topped them early and I'm now having to de-sucker every two days. I haven't used fertilizer for three weeks now and the bottom leaves are starting to mature. Should I prime the bottom leaves or wait and stalk harvest later? I assume that stalk harvesting would mean they would take longer to cure which would mean a less acidic smoke?
Frost is no problem, but sunlight is. From now until mid-March the sun is much lower in the sky and disappears behind a block of apartments at midday. Lucky if we get three hours of direct sunlight each day. I was going to try a second grow this year but seeing how I get so little direct sunlight hours I'll concentrate on getting transplants ready for March next year. Any advice on the Virginia harvesting would be very welcome.
 

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I've just read this article, which is a translation from (I think) a Russian site. I'm messing around with a few first primeings that are cured to a light brown and crispy dry. I'm interested in the microwave section. If anyone is interested could they read, and comment on the article?
I don't want to do this with my whole crop, just a bit of experimentation with first primings.
 
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