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HARVESTING GREEN AS OPPOSED TO YELLOWING LEAF

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Has anyone noticed, that sun / air cured green leaf, seems to colour up much darker, seems thicker and more leathery than a mature yellowed leaf from the same plant .... or am I smoking the wrong stuff ?
 

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I pick a lot of mine green..they will turn yellow while drying..as long as u didn't use too much nitrogen on them...6-6-18..is bacca n-p-k.
 

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Has anyone noticed, that sun / air cured green leaf, seems to colour up much darker, seems thicker and more leathery than a mature yellowed leaf from the same plant .... or am I smoking the wrong stuff ?
That is also influenced by stalk position, upper leaves tend to be thicker than lower.
 

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My flue-cured types of tobacco seem to perform best (retain a better and more uniform yellow color) in the flue-curing chamber when harvested at a ripe (yellowing) stage. My cigar types of tobacco do best when harvested at a greener stage. For the latter, I often wait to see a very slight yellow tip before priming.

I believe that, for cigar leaf, allowing it to yellow in the shed slows the color transition, and in a humid shed environment, encourages a darker, richer color.

Bob
 

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One reason I mention it is, that in my other thread on ( a picture paints .... ) I noticed that the pion hauling away cut leaf draped over sticks looked very green, with the occasional dark yellow in the mix. In the background of one shot, there stands a rickety old wood barn ( drying shed I guess ) ..... so who taught who ?

I believe that, for cigar leaf, allowing it to yellow in the shed slows the color transition, and in a humid shed environment, encourages a darker, richer color.

Bob



* I agree with stalk position,

* & next season i'll try the nitrogen mix
 

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I pick a lot of mine green..they will turn yellow while drying..as long as u didn't use too much nitrogen on them...6-6-18..is bacca n-p-k.
I've recently had a soil test done and in preparation for next season trying to research just what is needed in the way of fertiliser. So, I'm interested in your reference to 6-6-18 NPK. Are you saying that this mixture is the ideal fertiliser mix for tobacco? All types? If so, at what stage is it applied?
 

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I put down granular at planting and at knee high, spray miracle grow like every 2 weeks, with 1 more after topping. Never burned anything and the only thing that stunts them is if I didn't dig down deeply enough and it encountered rocks. Deer stunted a grow. Once.

As to the npk ratio it depends on your soil, personally i'd never use something that low in nitrogen. MG is close to 20-20-20 but I forget the exact numbers.
 

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so gald this subject has been brought up..I was just asking a member here when to stop/slow down on my fertilizing as get close to harvest..I just topped all few plants yesterday and last dose of fertizler was like 3-days ago hope doing correct thing on my timing ?? by the way I use my so-called "fish fertilizer" so its not as strong as others.
 

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This is probably the most informative information I've found on tobacco fertilization. The study compared fertilization ratios in respect to cost/profit and quality factors such as sugar and nicotine content.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ipni.net/ppiweb/bcrops.nsf/$webindex/1AC005B7F1BAA7C385257214002757BB/$file/06-4p23.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjV4_zBmLbOAhVRImMKHRP1BhgQFggnMAA&usg=AFQjCNEOWW2WriKySqhrxu9DueVylFpL_A&sig2=Ob3eFiH1ed3BA7047b8dsA

Keep in mind 1kg/ha = 0.89lbs/acre = 0.93g/100square feet.
 

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I've recently had a soil test done and in preparation for next season trying to research just what is needed in the way of fertiliser. So, I'm interested in your reference to 6-6-18 NPK. Are you saying that this mixture is the ideal fertiliser mix for tobacco? All types? If so, at what stage is it applied?
that (6-6-18)is the formulation for (commercially sold) tobacco specific fertilizer. One would assume since we are growing for a leaf that nitrogen content should be higher but too much will affect combustion negatively.
This in mind- last year I used a higher nitrogen formulation and I had a decent grow...BUT my leaf seems to have a consistent combustion problem .
This year I used a much lower formulation and had a much better grow ,bigger plants, bigger leaves . Still curing so I can't comment on the combustion just yet.
 

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this is the tobacco read-out sheet... of all the fertilizer i deliver to commercial farms... its also important to pay attention to the trace elements in the mix. i was told that beans also like this mix,

but it has boron in it.. and not all crops like boron,
 
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