Buy Tobacco Leaf Online | Whole Leaf Tobacco

Instant Pot Cavendish

Watchmaker

Member
Joined
Oct 24, 2019
Messages
8
Points
3
Location
San Antonio
I’ve been experimenting with some whole leaf tobacco I bought from WLT. Inspired by the thread on making cavendish I decided to try my hand with an Instant Pot which hasn’t been covered. (An Instant Pot is a new type of electronic pressure cooker. Think of a crock pot/pressure cooker hybrid.) They come in 6 and 8 quart varieties and are easily under $100 online or at Walmart. Mine is 6 quart.

I tried Turkish Prelip first as it was suggested in the other thread.

[Images in a subsequent post.]

Spoiler alert: I’m smoking a bowl right now and it’s delicious... even on its own.

The entire process took about 4-5 hours including final drying in the oven.

The idea is to steam the tobacco above the water and minimize moisture dripping on the tobacco and leaching the goodness out. The water should remain clear and colorless.

I started with 4 cups of water under a one inch tall round stainless rack that came with the pot. I rigged a stainless steel wire rack to sit above the water. I later switched to a wire strainer basket that I cut the handle off. There are steamer baskets available as accessories to the pot. Again the idea is to allow the steam to cook the tobacco without it sitting in the water.

I pushed the “steam” button and set the timer to 60 minutes. The timer counts down after the pressure is achieved. After 60 minutes it switches to a warming function. You can manually let steam out at this point or wait 10 to 15 minutes and the pressure will dissipate.

Warning: This process produces smells associated with steaming vegetables. Not unpleasant. Kind of like steamed sweet spinach. Some people you live with may not appreciate them. However this is where this electronic appliance can really shine as you can plug it in OUTSIDE! You can limit the smell by letting the pot dissipate the pressure for 10 minutes.

The program was three 60 minute sessions. After each session turn and fluff the tobacco leaves so more and different surface area is exposed to the steam so you get a uniform color throughout all the leaves.

When uniformly dark to black let it cool an dry to a low case (moisture). You can do this in the oven on a baking sheet on low watching it carefully so it doesn’t get too dry. Chop it into a uniform shred to your liking. Remember this is pure unmolested tobacco without any additives or anti mold agents. It will need to be stored dry enough so it won’t mold.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

ChinaVoodoo

Moderator
Joined
Sep 1, 2014
Messages
6,402
Points
113
Location
Edmonton, AB, CA
So was there dark liquid in the bottom that got discarded? Can you elaborate on the flavour? What temperature/pressure is this running at?
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Watchmaker

Member
Joined
Oct 24, 2019
Messages
8
Points
3
Location
San Antonio
No dark liquid. It was clear. I’m not experienced enough to describe flavors. I understand it is around 230 degrees and no more than 12 psi but please research this further.
 

Watchmaker

Member
Joined
Oct 24, 2019
Messages
8
Points
3
Location
San Antonio
Pictures of raw leaf, after each hour of steaming and final shredded product.
 

Attachments

  • 1E7A4DD8-EED7-4950-A1BD-B62745B19D73.jpeg
    1E7A4DD8-EED7-4950-A1BD-B62745B19D73.jpeg
    72.5 KB · Views: 56
  • DE5070FB-D1DF-4FCB-A110-BF169519AC60.jpeg
    DE5070FB-D1DF-4FCB-A110-BF169519AC60.jpeg
    78.3 KB · Views: 56
  • 560146EE-8708-4181-AEE5-A10EC6B24EF8.jpeg
    560146EE-8708-4181-AEE5-A10EC6B24EF8.jpeg
    97.8 KB · Views: 59
  • E9C59616-AE5F-457C-9218-AAB19D0C90A0.jpeg
    E9C59616-AE5F-457C-9218-AAB19D0C90A0.jpeg
    80 KB · Views: 61
  • 2CD388D1-97EE-43E3-82E2-5253BC0A4308.jpeg
    2CD388D1-97EE-43E3-82E2-5253BC0A4308.jpeg
    54.1 KB · Views: 61
  • 9D3876B4-CF00-430A-96CE-CA0B94B09528.jpeg
    9D3876B4-CF00-430A-96CE-CA0B94B09528.jpeg
    57 KB · Views: 61
  • 22B97494-B5F1-4748-800A-F55A9B17F5C0.jpeg
    22B97494-B5F1-4748-800A-F55A9B17F5C0.jpeg
    57.4 KB · Views: 57
Last edited by a moderator:

Watchmaker

Member
Joined
Oct 24, 2019
Messages
8
Points
3
Location
San Antonio
Just finished my second batch of about 12 leaves of flue cured Virginia bright. Pictures of fresh and at each hour including in the pot set up, drying rack and finished product. To speed up drying I preheated the oven to 170 degrees, turned it off, then put the tray in and checked it every 5 minutes. Each tray took 10 to 15 to dry enough to be able to bunch, slice and rub out to dry further.
 

Attachments

  • BFE0A7C6-6AC2-479A-AF3A-419DBCEF419C.jpeg
    BFE0A7C6-6AC2-479A-AF3A-419DBCEF419C.jpeg
    93.1 KB · Views: 51
  • 1F9288D3-41F7-4F7C-A9FD-003CB0E688ED.jpeg
    1F9288D3-41F7-4F7C-A9FD-003CB0E688ED.jpeg
    108 KB · Views: 53
  • C84DA89F-F6DD-40D8-B35D-9755D09F5C5D.jpeg
    C84DA89F-F6DD-40D8-B35D-9755D09F5C5D.jpeg
    114 KB · Views: 53
  • C3B6383E-C3D7-4851-ACC5-809F5A7E0A6E.jpeg
    C3B6383E-C3D7-4851-ACC5-809F5A7E0A6E.jpeg
    103.4 KB · Views: 57
  • 74922AE7-64EA-4689-8C29-642764D6EA94.jpeg
    74922AE7-64EA-4689-8C29-642764D6EA94.jpeg
    117.2 KB · Views: 57
  • C372D3BA-9EEF-4D57-A7D2-D287B8A635E8.jpeg
    C372D3BA-9EEF-4D57-A7D2-D287B8A635E8.jpeg
    104.7 KB · Views: 56

GreenDragon

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2018
Messages
1,564
Points
113
Location
Austin, TX
I also make my Cavendish in the Instant Pot, but I jar the tobacco and use it like a pressure cooker. I moisten the tobacco, lightly pack in a jar, place a loose lid on each jar, set the machine on “high”, and set the manual timer for 3-4 hours. Once the run is complete the pressure change seals the jars so no danger of molding. I can then dry them at my leisure.
 

Loupin

Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2019
Messages
7
Points
3
Location
Canada
I also make my Cavendish in the Instant Pot, but I jar the tobacco and use it like a pressure cooker. I moisten the tobacco, lightly pack in a jar, place a loose lid on each jar, set the machine on “high”, and set the manual timer for 3-4 hours. Once the run is complete the pressure change seals the jars so no danger of molding. I can then dry them at my leisure.

I've actually done this too and it works like a charm. 2 hours and I've got a black Cavendish. I usually add some lemon juice as well to calm the raw leaf.
 

Rectifier

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 27, 2016
Messages
53
Points
18
Location
Saskatchewan, Canada
Looks like your process worked well! I also do my Cavendish in sealed jars under pressure as it's pretty much foolproof. And as GreenDragon states, you have effectively canned the tobacco and it cannot go mouldy if left in the jars.

If you try this process in the Instant Pot make sure your jars don't slide around and scratch up the non-stick coating, if you intend to use the unit for food in the future. You probably want to put them on the little rack? I do my Cavendish in a traditional pressure cooker and save my Instant Pot for chili and beans, I don't even put the rack in it after many bad non-stick experiences in the past.
 

GreenDragon

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2018
Messages
1,564
Points
113
Location
Austin, TX
Looks like your process worked well! I also do my Cavendish in sealed jars under pressure as it's pretty much foolproof. And as GreenDragon states, you have effectively canned the tobacco and it cannot go mouldy if left in the jars.

If you try this process in the Instant Pot make sure your jars don't slide around and scratch up the non-stick coating, if you intend to use the unit for food in the future. You probably want to put them on the little rack? I do my Cavendish in a traditional pressure cooker and save my Instant Pot for chili and beans, I don't even put the rack in it after many bad non-stick experiences in the past.

My IP has a stainless steel pot, so no worries of scratching. If, like yours, you have a non-stick pot, you can just put a kitchen towel in the bottom to protect the surface then put in the jars.
 

tullius

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2019
Messages
699
Points
93
Location
NE Ohio
many bad non-stick experiences in the past
teflon shouldn't be on a stovetop or in oven. go carbon steel or stainless. touch of fat and the right temp and eggs skate in a carbon pan, use any utensil, no problem w/ high heat offgassing , no coating flaking off, goes in oven, etc.
 

Nathan Esq

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 24, 2019
Messages
91
Points
33
Location
Florida
I'm wondering if I can make cavendish from fermented cigar leaf? Anyone try it? Is it worth the effort?
 

deluxestogie

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 25, 2011
Messages
19,893
Points
113
Location
near Blacksburg, VA
That works like any other leaf. The difference is that if you use Caribbean variety cigar leaf (as opposed to Little Dutch, Dutch Ohio, PA Red, Long Red) the finished Cavendish will have a "cigar" aroma.

Bob
 
Top