Sort of. The harder I push the more the fabric wants to grip the rod. I have to turn the rod under the fabric as I push. I guess more like a fan belt when the fan pulley doesn’t turn freely and I’m the crank pulley.
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These two photos show the loaded doll/bunch. The belt comes over the roller and then back under the roller. If I just pull back on the roller the forces cancel each other and the rod just locks up and wont move. It feels like all the tension is on the top part of the belt at the roller and goes back to the brass bar and screws clamping the end of the belt. By simply unrolling the rod as it passes under the “top” belt it unlocks and rolls forward. I‘m not actually pulling on the rod so much as simply unrolling it under the “top” belt.
These show belt adjustment. Simple but effective. No slippage.
Side shot. I usually just run the doll to make sure it’s full enough but not too tight, then back it up and bind it.
These show belt adjustment. Simple but effective. No slippage.
Side shot. I usually just run the doll to make sure it’s full enough but not too tight, then back it up and bind it.
I just received this exact roller about a week ago. Anxious to try it out. Are you rolling a specific size? Interested to see what the range will be from smallest to largest.
If I remember correctly the son told me the range was ~ low 30’s to ~50. I rolled some 52. I haven’t tested to see how small I could go. I have a large plastic blunt roller for the small ones.
Juicy Jays 4-3/4”
wao that machine looks good
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@MarcL i decided to get the bed made heavier duty at my friends shop with a roller.
I was wondering if you could give me a few measurements?
size of the square base inside
Length of the bed portion before the drop offs
Center to center of the arm from pivot to roller
i figure i may as well copy a working model rather than guess. Or at least try to be close.
Thanks so much for all your help
I was wondering if you could give me a few measurements?
size of the square base inside
Length of the bed portion before the drop offs
Center to center of the arm from pivot to roller
i figure i may as well copy a working model rather than guess. Or at least try to be close.
Thanks so much for all your help
In terms of durability, the commercial Lieberman designs are intended to hold up for decades of rolling hundreds of bunches every day. For home use, you can probably go with less sturdy construction, and even less advantageous leverage.
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Right. Having turn the handles, the rod and doll must rotate. Assisting the mat to run over them by turning the handles. The optimum move seems more turn then pull. My design doesn't have that advantage. Though, I can assist a little with an open hand to the mat.
Nice. I can measure for you. Have you seen these threads?
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I notice the bed design having a varied gap to the rod. I see it as gradually closing the ring gauge.
When the RG is larger then the rods O/D, the exiting portion of the mat compresses the bunch. I don't see much of a matter to this but, it speaks to the OP query of "choosing a diameter for the rolling rod".
Let me measure.
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size of the square base inside > From the top. 8" in, 10" out by 10" in, 13 1/4" out.
From the bottom you see the hole needed to be cut in the table. 8 1/4" by 11 1/2"
Length of the bed portion before the drop offs > The rolling surface is 6" square.
Center to center of the arm from pivot to roller > 9"
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You can see from the bottom card board covered in tape a feeding troth in place of what I have seen looking like a adjustible cast iron one. The other side (drop box) is fixed.
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My length limit is a 6"cigar. the @BigBonner design size you might consider. if
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With the help from marcl and deluxestogie i changed gears a bit and brought everything above the table like a giant cigarette roller. Ill be testing tonight once i clean up from being in the shop. I did roll an already rolled one through and it seems to be working well
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Nice! That looks good. What is that mat?
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Parts list:
1 x side of an old desktop computer
1 x pole from a garden awning
1 x section of old guitar stand (chrome takeup roller)
Scrap flat bar ends from local gate maker
2” of scrap round bar for roller pivots
4x circlips
1 x side of an old desktop computer
1 x pole from a garden awning
1 x section of old guitar stand (chrome takeup roller)
Scrap flat bar ends from local gate maker
2” of scrap round bar for roller pivots
4x circlips
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Some upholstery vinyl scrap i had
Using a specialty, Canadian metric wrench, I've carefully rotated one of your images:
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