ChinaVoodoo
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I have some NB-11 seeds and I was wondering if I need to refresh them. I would rather not this year if I don't have to. Do other people have these?
NB-11 Burley
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@Jack in NB was posting as recently as December and he’s kind of local to you. He’s famous for the stuff.
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ChinaVoodoo
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Yeah, well Jack might not be refreshing that seed anymore, so I feel I'm responsible if nobody else is.@Jack in NB was posting as recently as December and he’s kind of local to you. He’s famous for the stuff.
ChinaVoodoo
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ChinaVoodoo
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I'm sure I have space. I just want to keep life simple this year. Bob has agreed to grow it. I can send you some if you like. I'm pretty sure I have an envelope with your address on it.
Keep in mind that most of the "new" varieties of tobacco are simply a well-know variety that a grower forgot to properly label, or that was sold as one thing, but turned out to be something different. And then there are the pollination "accidents", that result in an unexpected F1 generation. Intentional crosses take 5 to 7 years of tedious work to result in a stable, desirable, identifiable new variety.
I don't know the story on NB-11. We do know the stories on thousands of established, named Nicotiana tabacum varieties. NB-11 won't be found among the ARS-GRIN accessions, or in any other national germ plasm bank. Only on this forum. That's also true of Chillard's White Angel Leaf.
Bob
I don't know the story on NB-11. We do know the stories on thousands of established, named Nicotiana tabacum varieties. NB-11 won't be found among the ARS-GRIN accessions, or in any other national germ plasm bank. Only on this forum. That's also true of Chillard's White Angel Leaf.
Bob
skychaser
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Most likely it is an old Burley strain developed by Newton seed co. They labeled things that way. ie Newton Burley 11. The most productive strain of Burley I ever grew was NBH 98. (Newton Burley Hybrid 98) Too bad it is a male sterile variety and produces no seed. I don't know if Newton seed co is still around. For some reason I am thinking it was taken over by Workman Tobacco. But I could be wrong about that. ??
You are very possibly correct. My understanding was that the "NB" was an acknowledgment of @Jack in NB's role as the source. I suppose it may as well be named Noonday or Skylight, since there seems to be no record. [...Unless...unless @ChinaVoodoo knows!]
Bob
Bob
skychaser
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It's pretty common for commercial seed producers to label their varieties this way. The most productive bright leafs I ever grew were CC27, which is produced by Cross Creek Seed here in the US. (Cross Creek 27) And PVH2306 which is produced by Profigen in Brazil. (Profigen Variety Hybrid 2306). If you can find these seeds and want nothing but maximum production, get them. Tobaccoseed.co.uk used to have them and sold them as "Virgina Gold #1 & #2". You would have to email them and ask if they still have those specific strains. But they are also sterile and produce no seed.
The naming is from our very own Don (@FmGrowit). Here is the narrative on NB-11, directly from @Jack in NB this evening.
Bob
Thank you @Jack in NB. NB-11 is a new variety developed by agronomic selection. Its Market Class is undetermined. Its name is short for New Brunswick 2011.
Bob
skychaser
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lol OK. So it's like the Ergo seed I got that was half cigar wrapper seed. No idea what it actually is other than it is a really nice cigar wrapper similar to Poqunok or Connecticut 49. I call it Mystery 18.
Alpine
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Monte Calme Blanc??? I have never heard of it. Any details about it? Just curious, all Mount Calme strains come from Switzerland IIRC.
pier
pier
Probably meant Mont Calme Jaune.
Bob
Bob
skychaser
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I have heard of it. I don't have it, but I have heard of it. Never heard of anything called Mont Calme Jaune
That's Mont Calme Yellow, a Swiss burley cross. Mont Calme Brun is Mont Calme Brown, a Swiss Havana cross.
Bob
