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Did you ever have much luck with your green leaves turning any browner in the sun?
I took a picture of two of mine (both sides), but left them in the the sun a day longer than I should have and over did them.
Green dry and crispy
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Rehydrated
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Two days after cooking in the hot AR sun after being moistened and placed in an open plastic bag. I usually get better results/less bleaching with one day.
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Not a miracle cure by any means, but may help save a few borderline leaves for cigs or possibly pipe tobacco. Don't think I would want to do it for cigar tobacco though.
 

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Try smoking a few. I'll bet they still taste like lawn clippings. You may be able to bleach out some green in the sun but the chlorophyll is still there. I got some green leaves in m first year because I picked way too soon and dried them too fast. We all go through that learning curve so don't feel too bad about it. Now any green or partially green leaf goes straight into the compost bin. Pretty rare for me to see any these days once I learned what ripe looks like and how to color cure them properly.
 

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Did you ever have much luck with your green leaves turning any browner in the sun?
I took a picture of two of mine (both sides), but left them in the the sun a day longer than I should have and over did them.
Green dry and crispy
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Rehydrated
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Two days after cooking in the hot AR sun after being moistened and placed in an open plastic bag. I usually get better results/less bleaching with one day.
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Not a miracle cure by any means, but may help save a few borderline leaves for cigs or possibly pipe tobacco. Don't think I would want to do it for cigar tobacco though.
They're still greenish brown along the fatter part of the stem,I'll go thru them saving the tips.
 

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Took some pictures today
 

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Try smoking a few. I'll bet they still taste like lawn clippings. You may be able to bleach out some green in the sun but the chlorophyll is still there. I got some green leaves in m first year because I picked way too soon and dried them too fast. We all go through that learning curve so don't feel too bad about it. Now any green or partially green leaf goes straight into the compost bin. Pretty rare for me to see any these days once I learned what ripe looks like and how to color cure them properly.
I've not tried sampling any of them yet. I'll have to try latter tonight.
 

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I've not tried sampling any of them yet. I'll have to try latter tonight.
Portions of leaves showed left to right. Tried some plain brown air cured staghorn that was about the same color as the ending color for the sun cured previously green dried leaf. Ok but not ready for real use. Tried fainter green bagged staghorn sun cured that turned brown middle leaf), not so great. Tried a little greener staghorn that turned slightly brown sun curing but still with some green, a bit more grass clippings flavored.
Afraid @skychaser is correct, the bagging and sun curing method was not enough to save most of the leaves that dry green. Still a bit of an off flavor to them even when they sun cure to brown. Maybe chewing tobacco...?
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"The database is in the form of Lotus 1-2-3 (Release 2) worksheet files on MS-DOS and PC-DOS comparable, 5.25 inch diskette."

Hmmm. Lotus 1-2-3, MS-DOS, 5.25" diskette? That first attachment (a USDA report from 1990) seems a bit dated. Could you possibly add a note about each of the large pdf files that you've attached, that might help members decide whether or not each would be worth the effort of downloading just to see what they're about?

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I've listed the actual Title/Content in the PDF files

50457_ages8948.pdf - Tobacco Background for 1990 Farm Legislation

document(2).pdf - USDA Tobacco Production Bulletin #245 Dec.,1961

farmbul0523rev1947.pdf - USDA Tobacco Curing Farm Bulletin #523 issued Feb.,1913 revised Oct. 1947

farmbul057rev1925.pdf - USDA Tobacco Culture Farm Bulletin #571 issued 1914 revised Aug.,1925

flue curing.pdf - Harvesting and Curing Flue Cured Tobacco Cooperative Extension Service,University of Georgia rev. 1993

Glossary_of_Tobacco_Terms.pdf - glossary of tobacco terminology

PDF tobacco.pdf - USDA The US Tobacco Industry, Agricultural Economic Report #589 Sept.,1988

post_harvest_curing_conditions.pdf(SECURED) - Phillip Morris USA Leaf Dept , Controlling Curing Conditions

tobacco_without_tears.pdf - For the Home Grower by Hugh Cuthbertson 1948

TobaccoCuringstudy.pdf - USDA Studies on the Fermentation of Tobacco Aug.,1934
 

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This is interesting. I just opened one and started looking at charts.

In this one we see that production per acre went up during the 60s.
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In his one, we see that they use significantly less tobacco to make a cigarette than they did back in the day.
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This is interesting. I just opened one and started looking at charts.

In this one we see that production per acre went up during the 60s.
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In his one, we see that they use significantly less tobacco to make a cigarette than they did back in the day.
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Yup, there is a lot of interesting and informative stuff ,the link to the e-book has information dating back to when tobacco was used as currency in Virginia
 

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I hung tobacco in the shed and green house to Color-cure for 35 to 45 days till stems almost dried,took it down on a cold wet day(in case),put in closed turkey bags in gas stove on 155F 2hrs morning , then 2hrs evening at 155F the time in between the pilot keeps oven temp 70-80,each time before turning temp up I heavily sprayed with spring water ,did this for 7-10 days. On the day i can it ,I pull most of the stem,then pack the jars with leaf put jars (without lids)it in oven at 165F for an hour,take hot jars out put lids on turn oven up to 210- 220F (212F boiling point)put jars in for 15 min.,takeout hot jars let cool and lids pop sealed.
This is all experimental ,but I have trust in the processes,If it gets moldy I'll post it up here.
I had picked some #2,#3(primings) too early it didn't color cure,and some #4 got moldy in the shed while other(strains) didn't
 
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