It seems to be not exactly the same thing, although there was something brown inside the stem of the only plant I harvested (I will look more cautiously this afternoon). It could be something similar...
Thanks, I will look more closely and may be take some more detailed pictures.Wire worms tunnel up in the stalk from the ground. Here’s a photo of what the inside of the stalk looks like.
Image 1440100 is of tobacco wireworm (Conoderus vespertinus ) larva(e) on burley tobacco. It is by R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company at R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company. Wireworms (various species) are the major soil insects attacking tobacco. The yellow to brown, hard-bodied larvae are slender and...www.invasive.org
Yes, it is strange with shirey. As for as rotation, I can never do it properly as I grow some tomatoes, potatoes, chillies and the garden is not large enough. By the way tomatoes were damaged badly this season. In other seasons, when the disease affects the harvest of secondary tobacco plants (are you calling it suckers?), I don't care so much...I'm not aware of any particular disease resistance in Shirey. With some diseases, rotation away from solanaceous plants for two to three years minimizes the issue. With others, the organisms persist in the soil indefinitely. Weather conditions certainly can make a big difference in susceptibility to many tobacco diseases.
I wonder if @Alpine and @Charly are the members who can report knowledge of those tobaccos.I don't have a comparison for taste. Slower air-curing with greater ambient moisture results in a darker colored leaf. I am not familiar with the taste of zware or French brune.
Thank you for reply. If I have anything to put into the kiln this year,I don't have a comparison for taste. Slower air-curing with greater ambient moisture results in a darker colored leaf. I am not familiar with the taste of zware or French brune.
Sorry, it was not an intelligent question. Thank you for reply.I don't have a comparison for taste. Slower air-curing with greater ambient moisture results in a darker colored leaf. I am not familiar with the taste of zware or French brune.
The old Gauloises caporal and Gitanes were made of mostly “tabac brun” but are no longer manufactured. Some seeds for such strains may be available in France (probably from around Bergerac). Ducados cigarettes in Spain are still manufactured and are made with “tabaco negro” and taste quite like the old Gitanes.
“Zware” means “heavy” or “bold” in Dutch and zware blends contain mostly burley and fire cured tobacco, while the “halfzware” blends have a little flue cured in the mix. As far as I know, no orientals are present.
Northwoodseeds.com has a nice selection of dark tobaccos, and @polygon55 has seeds for dark strains too.
Unfortunately, at the moment, northwoodseeds doesn’t ship seeds outside US for the notorious Covid-related problems.
Maybe next spring...
Wait for @Charly to chime in, he can surely go deeper than me on the topic of dark French cigs (alas, long gone) and related tobaccos.
Thanks for the link, how happy I am that I had 8 years of Russian in communist school. I thought I will never use it. It will take some time to go through it.This is the website for the seeds of @polygon55
Каталог сортов табака и махорки. Коллекция семян Polygon55. В каталоге на сезон 2019 года 534 сорта табака и 105 сортов махорки.tobacco.professorhome.ru
They have many interesting varieties there. The only dark air cured, that I cannot buy in my country, are Pereg and BAdisher Geudertheimer. I bookmarked the website. Thanks a lot, good source.Thanks for the link, how happy I am that I had 8 years of Russian in communist school. I thought I will never use it. It will take some time to go through it.
I have not smoked a lot of the old french cigarettes (like Gauloise or Gitane), but as Pier said, they were made with "tabac brun".
Just yesterday I was searching for tobacco seeds in the freezer and I found some Bolivian Criollo from 2012 and an old Brown Leaf seeds beside other interesting seeds and I thought I will try, if at least some would grow next spring. I grown Bolivian Criollo in first or second growing season and it dried into light brown. I don't remember, what went wrong. Season after season I say to myself: this year I will do it better.... It is the same with Brown Leaf, it is fire cured I guess, at time I was growing it, I was not using smoking chamber. Instead of hanging in my smoking chamber pre matured leafs of Adonis, that would otherwise be consumed by disease, I should do the same with Brown Leaf next year.I'm going to take a truly wild guess here. Paraguay Flojo, Bolivia Criollo Black, and Venezuelan Guacharo all seem to be very similar strains of long, dark, strong tobacco.
Thanks for reply, yes, blond and brun is sufficient, the others are possibly over-classifying it. For example I never understood why to divide tobacco plant into five different qualities of the leaf when Low, middle and top seem enough. Don't think I am a French tobacco fanatic, i am satisfied with any dark rolling tobacco. With me it is not problem of variety but of processing tobacco, If I learn how to do it well, I can make good rolling mixture with varieties I have (Adonis, Gooose Creek Red, Tabaco Negro, some fire cured and oriental to make the taste more interesting). Yesterday i mixed 10g of GCR low leafs, 20g of GCR mid Leafs, 10g of Adonis mid leafs, 20g of Balikesir top leafs and 10g of my fire cured, the result is smokable.I have not smoked a lot of the old french cigarettes (like Gauloise or Gitane), but as Pier said, they were made with "tabac brun".
In France, most people always talk about two main kinds of cigarettes : "tabac brun" or "tabac blond" (yes, our classification is simple )
"tabac brun" is air cured tobacco, probably dark air cured tobacco (in France we grew some strange strains : "Paraguay", "Dragon-Vert", and Burley for cigarettes).
"tabac blond" is the traditionnal US cigarette with flue cured tobacco.
I don't have much informations about the specific strains Paraguay and Dragon-Vert. It could be interesting to find their origin.
So if you want to make your own "french cigarettes", try some dark air cured tobacco and burley.