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Smells green still... (Air Curing + Aging = 10 month review/help)

SnuffmeisterUK

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TLDR: air cured smells like tea after 10 months.

Sorry for the essay.

Hi beloved folks, my seedlings are late this year but having them starting to get bigger now (uk weather has been awful) I'm getting ready for my second growing season.

Last year I grew multiple strains, dark burley, dark virginia, little dutch and rustica. All successfully air cured to a dark brown or at lightest a gold/yellow (other than the rustica which was trickier as expected).

During the curing process I had all the leaves in hands, hung in my spare room. Some days I'd walk in and be overwhelmed by the beautiful scent, at points the room smelled like cuban cigar wrappers, there was always a hint of green tea to it which I assumed was just it's very young age but a very obvious tobacco scent hung in the air.

I made a snus with my burley and Virginia about 2 months after jarring and it was foul. Tasted like fetid vegetables, tea and rubber. It isn't the fault of my recipie as I've used commercial tobacco and cigars to make snus that have turned out good/ok.

I made a snus again last month (now 9 months old) but reinforced it with a blend of gawith hoggarth black Irish twist - the snus is now perfectly useable but dominated by the mere 10% of twist I used in the recipie.

Tonight I sat down and opened all my jars of burley and emptied them into a large bowl to examine what 10 months of aging has done.

About 2 months in I put a RAW terracotta hydration stone in the centre of each jar, packing leaves around them.

Sadly, in all jars, across all my strains there is STILL a green tea tinge hanging out above a very mild rolling tobacco smell.

Leaves more enact and higher in case smell tantalisingly similar to Marlborough gold, the smaller scrappy bits are pure green tea.

Does anyone have any idea why aging is not seeming to have much effect yet?

Last year I grew with snus-making in mind so didn't even consider any form of fermentation, in the last 6 months I have found the joy of pipe smoking so am now opened minded to trying out easy fermentation techniques if any of y'all think this might help get this green tea out my jars.

I've fallen down the wondeful rabbit hole of this site many times in the last 12 months but not quite seen this situation covered.

It's late in the UK, forgive my bedtime essay.
 

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Commercial tobaccos (cigar, pipe, cig) are all aged 3-6 years or more before being used. Virginias tend to have a hay/grassy taste when young and un-toasted. As Bob mentioned you will need to either let them age a few more years or “speed” age them in a kiln to get the flavor profile you want.
 

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@deluxestogie @GreenDragon thanks for your thoughts,

Snus is supposedly made using young air cured leaf.. I'm starting to wonder if that is actually true for commercial products, perhaps they have magical ways we will never find out..

In the meantime, my single jar of little dutch is by far the most tobacco smelling off the lot so I've split it into two piles, half of which I've now cooked into a black cavendish and have it under pressure now ready to be sliced and dried

@deluxestogie I've got a noodle press arriving tomorrow as I'd love to make this into a plug, how much should the cavendish and overall case of the tobacco be when going into a plug?

The cavendish is obviously soaking at this stage, the rest of the little dutch is plyable but some cripsy/crunchy autumn leaves in there as well
 

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Over the last decade, I've made only a few plugs. So I don't have a good feel for the ideal case. Theoretically, if you can exclude air from the pressed tobacco, it will not mold.

You might read through @ChinaVoodoo's Carotte Method:


Bob
 
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