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DaleB

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Sigh. I have a jar of Cavendish I made in late 2023. It’s been on a shelf in my office ever since, and has been fine. I left it in moderately high case; not Lane Ltd. high, but I didn’t want it crunchy. Anyway, a week or two ago I brought it down to the garage and tried some, and it was pretty decent. Unfortunately it seems that the garage is a couple degrees warmer, and now I’ve got white mold pretty much throughout. Should I:

  1. Toss it
  2. Spread it out, mist with hydrogen peroxide, and dry it
  3. Ignore the mold and smoke it
  4. Something else?
There’s a pretty good amount of it but not a pound or anything… maybe half a pound.

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Although mold is the most likely thing, there is a small chance its bloom. Bloom is harmless and is actually a good sign. When I worked in the tobacco shop, a few of our cigars would develop bloom. The customers often didn't understand bloom; so those cigars often didn't sell well. Nevertheless, we were proud of it. Here's a link about differentiating bloom from mold: https://www.simplycigars.co.uk/guide/cigar-old-or-plume-bloom-45/
The only way to really be sure is to look at it under magnification.
 
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I would venture to say that at least some of the so-called "bloom" (or "plume") on cigar shop cigars is, in fact, mold. Sometimes they are inadvertently over-humidified. Since mold spores are ubiquitous, that is a risk. In the half-century of storing my own cigars—hundreds of different brands over the decades—in my own wash-stand-size humidor cabinet, and some of those cigars resting in there for a decade or more, I have never seen "bloom".

Note that the photo in the above link seems to show "plume" predominantly at the cigar head. If, indeed, those are crystals of something, then their location would suggest that they are related to the cigar glue that was slathered onto the heads to make them pretty.

Just an observation.

With regard to the Cavendish with mold, it does not pose a significant health risk if it is smoked in a pipe. Any possible aflatoxin present will be combusted. On the other hand, if it smells like mold, it won't be very nice to smoke. Moldy tobacco does present an aflatoxin risk if it is used for smokeless preparations or for cigar wrapper.

The only time I have seen moldy Cavendish in my own tobacco is when I bagged about a quart of my first ever batch of Cavendish—in medium case. I had judged it to be less squishy than commercial Cavendish. A lesson learned. It looked like mold, smelled like mold, and was sadly tossed out. I now store Cavendish (which is more hygroscopic than uncooked tobacco) dry enough to crack but not crumble.

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Thanks for the replies, guys. Yeah… I’d say this was medium case or a bit past that. I can’t discern any different or unpleasant smell. I’m going to go with #2; we have plenty of 3% peroxide and I’ve got a little spritzer bottle I can use for it. If it’s mold, the peroxide should kill it. If it’s bloom/plume (unlikely, I think), I’d think the peroxide would dissolve it to be re-absorbed. Either way, I’ll let it dry more thoroughly before closing it back up in the freshly sterilized jar.
 

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I'll admit I've always had my doubts about bloom. We know that many major cigar manufacturers often treat their tobacco with a proprietary flavor tea. So, I've often wondered if the bloom is a form of efflorescence of something that they treated the tobacco with. I don't like the picture example of the cigars in the link I provided above for the same reason deluxestogie indicates above. My memory of bloom was that it indeed looks like wee crystals on the wrapper and it will be along the full length of the cigar. If its fuzzy/hairy, its likely mold. I threw out the suggestion of bloom more as a devil's advocate than anything else.
 

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Concerning mold control, I have a two boxes of Dominican cigars aging. I've overhumidified twice, and just hints of surface mold started. I dipped my fingers in cleaning vinegar and rubbed the cigars, dabbed into the foot, let them air out a bit and voila, no more mold. Done this twice in the last two years and no harm, no foul. The cigars are perfect without vinegar aRoma, and back to aging away. Of course learning lesson in better humidity control.

I've done this with some whole leaf too, but not on shred.
 
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