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Hi there,

I'm a snus user as my regular tobacco intake - the most convenient kind for me to use is not the loose tobacco type, but rather the portion snus (pouches of tobacco in teabag type material that can be disposed of easily and discreetly.)

Making loose tobacco snus at home is a relatively easy affair - but I have found that even with commercially available heat-sealing pouches, the act of filling and sealing them by hand is incredibly time-consuming and messy. So I have been experimenting with a way to get a similar snus experience without all the complicated process. So I went down the chewing tobacco road instead ... for me the problem with chewing tobacco is that it needs a fairly big cheek-full in order to get the same hit as a snus in the lip and interferes with the rest of my life ... so I set about trying to make a twist chew that was extra-strong, flavoured similar to snus, and could be cut to a similar size and texture to snus in the upper lip.

I've been experimenting with Rustica for several years and I think this year I have definitely succeeded in perfecting the product (whatever it's called?? - I'm just calling it rustica twist chew for now)

HERE'S THE PROCESS

The variety of N.Rustica that has been the most successful is N.Rustica (Mahorka Stalingradskaia) supplied by Jessica from GRIN - this variety is of good strength and has large leaves ideal for making twists from - it also has thinner, less rubbery leaves than most rusticas which makes for a better texture in the mouth ... it also has a nice mild tobacco flavour without needing a lot of ageing.

The leaves are simply air-cured until brown ... I found that with all rusticas that a week or so of pile curing (stacking the leaves and leaving to sweat - re-stacking every few days to prevent decomposition) helped massively in getting them to cure brown rather than slightly green.

Once cured, I take the stems out and prepare to start twisting. First I make a sauce to get the snus flavour in to the tobacco:

Sauce
approx 500ml spring water
8 crushed liquorice roots
50 crushed allspice berries
5 tsps sea salt
4 tsps salmiak (food-grade ammonium chloride)

The liquorice roots and allspice berries were added to the water in a saucepan and brought to the boil then simmered until the mixture was dark brown and slightly reduced to 400ml. It was sieved and then the salt and salmiak were dissolved in it - this was left to cool down. The liquorice is important as it adds a sweetness which will not damage your teeth in the way that sugar would - the allspice berries were for a slightly spicy aroma but other flavouring herbs and spices could be used.

The twist is then formed by laying out about 4 medium sized de-stemmed leaf halves in a row overlapping half-way to the next leaf with the straight edge facing you. The leaves are then sprayed lightly with the sauce mixture using a plant-sprayer. The twist is then formed by starting at the left hand side and rolling at 45º to the straight edge away from you and towards the right. Keeping the twist as tightly rolled as you can - this feels like rolling a really strange tight cigar! You can choose a nice big leaf to use as a wrapper for the whole thing if you want it to look neat or you can just have it as it is. The aim is to make a twist with a diameter of about ⅜" and certainly no wider than ½". At the end - continue to twist both ends in opposite directions so that it starts to loop around itself to form a miniature classic twist shape ... like this
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Finish off with a piece of wire or string to hold it together. The final stage is to spray the outside with the sauce again and hang the twists up to dry off. The finished twists will be approximately 4" long when doubled up.

To use - simply cut off a small piece (about ¼" long is great for me) like in the picture below and place in your upper lip with the cross-section part touching your gums and as soon as it begins to rehydrate you get a great satisfying hit in just the way you do with snus with all the salty-sweet flavours along with a nice smooth tobacco taste.

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One of these little twists will give you about 35 pieces. They last for hours and can be refreshed easily by giving them a little bite (but not a full on chew otherwise they can disintegrate!) - when you dispose of them they are in one piece rather than having a mouth full of mud. They cause almost no brown colour of the saliva and need no spitting provided you don't keep messing with them. As soon as they are dry they can be stored somewhere at room temperature and regular humidity in a box or similar. If you want to add extra flavours to them then they can be stored in a sealed jar with aromatic things such as coffee beans, vanilla pods or spices and they will absorb the aroma.

If you're a snus user or a chew user and grow your own ... I would definitely recommend having a go at this!
 

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Nice job squeezyjohn, I've been looking for a chew recipe myself . Most I've ever seen use salt, molasses and apple juice for the reduction sauce. where did you find the licorice root ? What does the salmiak do?
 

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"the problem with chewing tobacco is that it needs a fairly big cheek-full in order to get the same hit as a snus "

I must be one hell of a nicotine wimp then. I make dip pretty much like snus and I use just the tiniest amount otherwise I get nic overload. I even grew some Brown and Williams Low Nic tobacco this year to mix in with my regular tobacco to lower the Vitamin N content.
 

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Smokin Harley:

Liquorice root is commonly available over here in the UK from health-food shops but you can also get it from Indian or Chinese supermarkets. It just looks like a twig from a tree. Chew is much nicer with a little sweetness to it and liquorice root contains a very sweet substance called glycyrrhyzin that is natural and does not promote tooth decay in the way that the sugars in glucose and fruit juice do. If you cannot get liquorice then using powdered xylitol would also sweeten in a safe way - but I prefer the flavour of liquorice. The taste of pure herbal liquorice is quite different to liquorice candy which is overpoweringly flavoured with aniseed - it blends very nicely with tobacco.

Salmiak is the Swedish word for ammonium chloride, it's used in their liquorice candies and is often described as an acquired taste! I think it gives a really authentic snus like flavour (some commercial brands include salmiak in the recipes) ... It has a brighter flavour than regular salt along with a distinctly ammonia-type aftertaste - if that doesn't sound appealing you could just leave it out and add more salt to the sauce recipe.

Jitterbugdude:

I think you're confusing dip with chewing tobacco. Dip, like snus, is stronger because it contains pH raising agents like sodium carbonate or potassium carbonate which elevates the levels of free nicotine available. Chewing tobacco does not have it's pH raised to an alkaline level though and so with regular strength tobacco you need far more in your mouth to get the same effect - like Red Man. People often talk about having a golf-ball sized amount!

My chew begins with a far stronger tobacco and doesn't have it's pH raised which gives the end result of seeming like the same kind of strength but it lasts longer and it's a little bit gentler on the gums.
 

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By the way - I have also experimented with a little Propylene Glycol or Glycerol in the sauce recipe to keep the tobacco softer, but it can interfere with the flavour and doesn't really improve the experience much.

I have also experimented with using bergamot essential oil to get an even more traditional snus flavour ... but it seems as if the oils just evaporate leaving little or no flavour at the end.
 

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I think you're confusing dip with chewing tobacco. Dip, like snus, is stronger because it contains pH raising agents like sodium carbonate or potassium carbonate which elevates the levels of free nicotine available. Chewing tobacco does not have it's pH raised to an alkaline level though and so with regular strength tobacco you need far more in your mouth to get the same effect - like Red Man. People often talk about having a golf-ball sized amount!

Actually... I'm not. I used to make chew but then switched to snus, then to dip. For the dip/snus I stopped adding anything that would raise the pH. I think the only difference between dip and snus is the grind size of the leaf. What I make is between chew and dip. I shred it fairly fine but process it like snus/dip without the carbonate to raise the pH. So I guess I'm really making "chewdipsu"
 

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Looks like a cotton boll twist.

I'm sure you know this squeezy, that was like the original product, could bite a chunk and chew, cut/rub for pipe, or both and dry out the chew to stuff in the pipe after you got home from the coal mine.

I've wondered about buying that ammonia in the past, having tried all the other alkalizing agents, would you say it really brings that authentic dip flavor to the tobacco? Where washing soda doesn't? I'd definitely purchase it if so.
 

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Yes - I've had a plain cotton boll twist sent over from america in the past and it was one of the only unsweetened chewing tobaccos I've ever had. In fact the technique for making those old fashioned twists was directly what inspired me down this line. The key differences is the strengths of the tobacco and the size of the twist. The cotton boll twist I bought was roughly the same strength as the loose leaf sweetened chew from the USA I've had and the twists were much larger in diameter - and that made using in the upper lip like snus difficult as it didn't fit!

The ammonium chloride I use is different from the ammonium carbonate in some dip recipes - it's more of a salt than an alkali - it gives an authentic snus type flavour ... but I'm not sure that's the same as modern dip - even though the two products basically started off as the same thing a century ago.

Sorry Jitterbugdude ... I didn't mean to question you about it - the terminology between these different types of smokeless are blurred at best and when you get in to the Swedish stuff it's a whole language barrier on top! Swedish snus is pretty potent stuff - regular users probably get a whole lot more vitamin N than regular smokers ... and I do like the strong varieties! This adaptation using rustica tobacco is a solution for people like me who regularly use portion snus.

As an aside - I'm not sure that the N.Rustica reputation for being 8 times as strong as N.Tabacum is true - certainly not when I grow it ... most varieties are definitely stronger, but not to that degree.
 

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This is so interesting SqueezyJ! Thanks. Now I know exactly what I am going to do with 100 x Rustica that will be ready to harvest soon. Though I expect I will be chewing for a decade or more. Fortunately I grow my own liquorice for the gin. I love the suggestion to play with the sauce flavours and sweetness.
 

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Cool ... I've never managed to get liquorice to grow here but I might try again. If you've got a more regular type of rustica with smaller and thicker leaves it will work, but the twists will probably look a little more tatty but I have successfully made it with them in previous years.

Of course you can make the twists completely unflavoured too and it is a pleasant enough taste, but a little bland for my liking. Also without the sauce the twists will tend to go rock hard when they dry out and take some serious rehydration to make the pieces comfortable in the lip. Another solution for keeping the twists pliable enough is to include a tiny amount of propylene glycol in whatever sauce you are using.
 

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Tried this with Don's dark air. Mixed the water, soda, salt sweetener and some loranns cherry. The leaf was dry so I slowly hydrated it with the sauce in a large bowl, it ended up absorbing the mixture with about an ounce of excess.

I piled it all up in a zip lock bag to age for a bit. I will twist it up after it's sat for an aging process, figure a week should suffice. I did try some right away by twisting a piece about 1/4" x 2" and upper decked it. Taste is real pleasant but fades quick due most likely to the lack of aging.

Got the hiccups now, going on 5 minutes lol. I'll leave it in till dinner. Hiccups subsiding as I am writing this. Pretty pleasant. Every once in a while I pull it down and squeeze it gently between my teeth and get more flavor.

Wonder if I did a 12 hour snus cook after aging if it would do anything for the hiccups?

No cravings so must have something going on. Thanks again John.
 

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Those aren't hiccups ... they're Niccups!

I tried cooking the twists up after processing and the problem was that they kind of fell to pieces - that's the reason I went with rustica rather than regular tobacco for mine so that there would be enough strength in a small piece without the soda added (which is probably why you feel the need to cook it up)
 

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The more I try rustica the more I feel it's strength is just legend. I've heard numbers as high as 90mg/g but have never found a rustica that is strong. On the other hand dark varieties can hit over 70mg/g and should all be above 40 at the very least, and are commonly found, I figure it'd be easier to add a little extra if more strength is desired.

Yeah I know about niccups but I was unsure if it was that as I tried it after some homemade snus (your recipe btw:) ) and was still sated. The true test will be when the beast starts to wake up again tonight. I'll let it get angry and see how it satisfies.

Anyway it's all in the bag and periodically I squeeze the mass to express fluid and let it reabsorb. It should be pretty awesome.

I didn't catch where you didn't add a pH adjuster, I just add it out of habit these days for flavor and mouthfeel amongst other reasons like freeing nicotine.


Cool stuff though, as always thanks for sharing your experiments.
 

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I agree ... most rustica I have grown, especially the ones with bigger leaves, don't have those mythical dangerous levels of nicotine. There's a lot of crossover between the milder strains of rusticas and stronger tabacum varieties in my experience. But most rusticas are still at the high end of nicotine levels. I also think that there is a different balance of nicotine related alkaloids in rustica which makes the tobacco a little more satisfying - but that could just be me.

One of the benefits of using rustica in chew over the strong dark air cured varieties of tabacum is that it has a much milder and less bitter taste for it's strength. Of course that's personal preference too I suppose. If it is not completely cured and aged then rustica can suffer from a bit of a 'wet dog' aroma (yuck!) ... but if treated with patience then it can develop in to a mild, slightly aromatic tobacco with a big kick.

I'm interested to see how your tests by abstaining and then seeing how the tobacco satisfies works ... I'm afraid I'm not that patient when it comes to stuffing another piece in my face!
 

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I wasn't that patient in the end either last night lol.

Anyway to be fair to it, it needs to finish.

I am also going to rob a portion off the top to turn into snuff, scent is wonderful.
 

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Update, after an 8-10 hour cook mainly for the maillard process to happen around 165 it's drying out. Oh and it smells amazing as it dries. Really really good. Will definitely be powdering some for snuff as well as trying cuts off it. Just can't get over how good it smells though.
 

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Wow! Sounds like a result! I might look in to having a go at doing that again to see if I get a better result!
 

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As an oral tobacco it ended up being good, but as snuff it is amazing, I ended up powdering it all. Lost half the batch to carelessness though. Cry. Hope I can recreate it, I didn't write everything down that I did to it.

Gotta get better with note taking.
 

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I did this again, this time using the light fire cured tobacco. The twist was sauced and left to sit for I dunno half a year or something like that. It's good, no mud slide since no powder and not over the top smoke like the normal fire cured.

It's just awesome. I had forgotten about it, that's how it aged so long. I have a 1 inch long piece about half the width of a pencil in now for about half an hour and about to go get rid of it, starting to get too much vitamin n lol.

You're like my favorite smokeless hero John, please do keep telling us of your creations, they get me trying similar things that I end up liking immensely:)
 
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