Tobacco cultivation in Ukraine: @Sergey Z

[Sergey Z]

Color-cure is the process of allowing green leaf to naturally lose its chlorophyll, while eliminating albuminous proteins within the leaf. This phase should not be rushed. It usually requires 4 to 8 weeks of moderate ambient temperature and humidity.

Flue-cure is a process that should only be used for Virginia flue-cure varieties, and perhaps certain Orientals. The process begins with green leaf, and follows the flue-curing graph that you just posted. All other varieties (cigar, dark air-cured, Maryland, Pennsylvania, etc.) should be just color-cured, then kilned.

Kilning is a process of accelerated fermentation. It is used with brown leaf that has already color-cured. That is the 4 to 8 weeks exposure to temperatures of 123°F to 128°F, in elevated humidity.

Bob

Yes, I understand that, but translation sometimes changes words.
I have a problem with drying the central core (third stage of Flue-cure)

Now it's cold and humid outside, the leaves are not drying, and I have to take them inside to dry them.

If I can adjust the humidity, I will do the whole Flue-cure and Kilning process.

 

[Chinese explorer]

Good afternoon, everyone! I have this problem (or is it not even a problem).... On some varieties on the leaves there are such flecks of green, they appeared on completely yellow leaves, at the time of drying, it is not mold, more like flecks of chlorophyll ... Most of them were on Basma and Japan 8. But there is also one point here - if you collect the leaf, these toskas are there, if you cut down and dry the bush, they are not there. What can it be, perhaps someone has encountered this? Is this leaf suitable for consumption and does it affect the flavor much? In the photo is a sheet of Paraguay P19.

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I asked a friend who works in a tobacco - leaf - collecting factory, and he said that this kind of tobacco leaf is recommended to be thrown away.

 

[Sergey Z]

I asked a friend who works in a tobacco - leaf - collecting factory, and he said that this kind of tobacco leaf is recommended to be thrown away.

Why throw it away? What is it?

 

[Chinese explorer]

Why throw it away? What is it?

He told me that the cause of this is that "fresh leaves sticking together" refers to a state description where fresh leaves adhere or gather together. When it is fermented after being covered up, it becomes like this. Some were missed during the process of "tobacco separation and sorting" and should be torn off and discarded. "Tobacco separation and sorting" refers to an operation of picking leaves during the tobacco planting process in order to make the plants grow better.

 

[Chinese explorer]

Why throw it away? What is it?

When the leaves are overlapping each other before harvest, and then curing is carried out after harvest, this situation will occur.

 

[Sergey Z]

He told me that the cause of this is that "fresh leaves sticking together" refers to a state description where fresh leaves adhere or gather together. When it is fermented after being covered up, it becomes like this. Some were missed during the process of "tobacco separation and sorting" and should be torn off and discarded. "Tobacco separation and sorting" refers to an operation of picking leaves during the tobacco planting process in order to make the plants grow better.

I don't understand

 

[deluxestogie]

I don't understand it either.

Bob

 

[Sergey Z]

He told me that the cause of this is that "fresh leaves sticking together" refers to a state description where fresh leaves adhere or gather together. When it is fermented after being covered up, it becomes like this. Some were missed during the process of "tobacco separation and sorting" and should be torn off and discarded. "Tobacco separation and sorting" refers to an operation of picking leaves during the tobacco planting process in order to make the plants grow better.

Do you mean these leaves?

 

[Chinese explorer]

I don't understand it either.

Bob

Haha, the translated version looks really awkward. That is, when the plants are growing, the leaves are in zero-distance contact with each other, which causes poor development. After being picked, when the leaves are fading, that same poorly-developed leaf is again in zero-distance contact with other leaves. The combination of these two conditions is likely to lead to this situation.

 

[Chinese explorer]

Do you mean these leaves?

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The leaves on the upper part block the sunlight for the leaves below, resulting in poor growth of the latter.

 

[deluxestogie]

I agree that from a commercial standpoint, a leaf with the spots show in the photo should be discarded. From the standpoint of a home grower, if it is not mildew or mold, then it may or may not be useable leaf.

Bob

 

[johnny108]

Kiln it anyway, then taste it.

 

[Sergey Z]

The leaves on the upper part block the sunlight for the leaves below, resulting in poor growth of the latter.

If you collect it like this, you will get green spots as in the photo above



If you assemble it like this, everything is fine, there will be no green spots



If you cut off the top and wait two to three weeks, there will be no green spots