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Hey guys. I was wondering if any of you woodworkers had tried shredding a brick of tobacco on a wood jointer. I have a six inch jointer in my shop and it just looked ideal for shredding. This coming season will be my first so I have no tobacco to make a brick from. Anyone willing to try? Any suggestions? Disparaging remarks are also welcome. LOL
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I have heard that some Amish up north was using a wood planner for shredding . One person in the tobacco bis said he saw it first hand .
How it was being done or details I don't know .
 

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It would need to be a good size brick and a not to big jointer. I know first hand a guy who lost all his fingers and both his thumbs by not using one properly. This happened 2 weeks after he got married. I've seen a video of a homeade planer shredder that went to town on shredding. Someone may be able to still search for it.
 

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I don't know about the planer but if you want to shred the perfect tobacco buy a Powermatic shredder.
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I finaly got my order in for one. That coupled with my new powermatic electric roller will free up a lot of time. After buying the roller I realized how much time was involved with my homeade shredder. I would be leary using a standard planer, for the quantity I shred at a time I would waste more than it it was worth. I get enough saw dust roughage in my diet to be smoking it too.:cool:
 

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I left out a little info on the jointer. Naturally a woodworker would use a push stick to push the brick across the blades and a featherboard to hold downward pressure on it. Also mine has six inch wide blades so the bigger the brick the more tobacco gets shedded per pass. The tobacco exits via a chute and would end up in box placed there.
Have you checked out the Mach One tobacco shredder on ebay? I emailed the guy some questions. They are made in California, weigh 47 pounds and he said of the 2 or 3 that he knows of having problems the company just repaced the entire machine with a new one. Very heavy duty and the hopper looks like it would be much easier to feed than the Powermatic. Claims a pound a minute. Anyone with experience with this?
 

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You got one success story and a few warnings :)
Anything beats a $200 machine that will wear out in a few months and have to have designer parts to fix it.....
Thats what I saw with all the standard home shredders so far....
 

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a designer part to me IMO is one that is over priced and has limited dealership. Available only thru the machine makers parts department.

A standard home shredder is one of the few mentioned on this and other sites like the Mach 1 , the Cutoff machine ,the Shule pasta macker etc.

I think the Teck 1 old german style cutter could be duplicated cheap enough from plans to suit most users requirements or even machine adapted. Bushings, bearing and such being available most every where like from Graingers for example thus making them non- designer or machine specific.

The rolling machines or injectors are affordably priced not worth trying to home make but the shredders just seem to be overpriced and there are so many appliances and tools that could almost work. A meat slicer with a different holder mite work. Having plans for a holder to send with an order of whole leaf to adapt to such a slicer would be great for leaf seller also. I'm in mad rush now trying to find something affordable to test some leaf I stumbled onto.

I see in other posts that you also are hunting a cheaper and better machine to serve your customers. Eventually someone will come up with a viable adaptation or new machine based on this desire and need.

Mike

PS: I am totally unfamiliar with what whole leaf tobacco behaves. When making "bricks" Is it possible to make a brick the size of a standard peice of paper and maybe 1/8" thick and use a gulliotine type paper cutter?
 

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PS: I am totally unfamiliar with what whole leaf tobacco behaves. When making "bricks" Is it possible to make a brick the size of a standard peice of paper and maybe 1/8" thick and use a gulliotine type paper cutter?
Mine still works great after 2 years. Cost $0 to make. Roll or fold leaves to diameter that works best and go to town. My guillotine slicer does not work well on compacted tobacco as there is not enough leverage and force to cut well. You can also check leverheads homeade tobacco slicer in the shredder section.
http://fairtradetobacco.com/showthread.php?1740-Can-an-auction-be-set-up-for-products/page3
 

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Shredder price is relative. Expensive compared to what? Read the threads of all the devices the home grower had to come up with before there were commercial options. Boboro posted a picture (maybe last years grow blog) of all the devices he had built and worn out or discarded. There was enough expense in that pile to have bought two Powermatics, but they weren't available at the time. Roll tobacco into cigar shapes and cut it into shreds with a utility knife for awhile. Leverhead has a great shredder, but he is a talented tool maker. (among other things, lol) I'm not trying to discourage further research, in fact I love innovative ideas and the McGyver type people that can grab a few things laying around the shop and yard and slap together a great new tool. Keep us posted on what you come up with, but read the threads about what life was like before the Powermatic, and what a boon it has been for our hobby. If you come up with something better, faster, cheaper and with parts available from Ace Hardware, hell yeah, I'll buy one. Until then, one good way to get a scrap started is to knock the Powermatic to people with permanent scars from hand shredding or still wake up in the middle of the night from a nightmare involving turning a pasta maker handle. lol Until you actually have a prototype of a better machine, the Powermatic is the holy grail.
 

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One day I think thir will be a cheaper better shredder. I dont think you will be able to get parts for it at a hardware store. Shredders are such a specilized machine. I wish you great luck on buildin one. If I were goin to try I would try the reel mower shredder.
 

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Hopefully the current batch of shredders will be cheaper once they've paid for R&D and tooling. Look at the prices of computers and TV's from just a few years ago. Competition from Fisherman will force them to reduce their prices if they hope to stay competitive. You go Fisherman. We're pulling for you brother!
 
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