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Jason C

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hope you guys are well and blessed, and thank you for your time. My question is besides casing and proper rolling technique what do the pros do to have such a wrinkle free wrapper?

I see videos of these cigar rollers and their wrappers “Before” the roll are so smooth I’m curious as to what the prep of the wrapper looks like before they use the wrapper


Do they lay them flat in a towel or roll them or something else pherhaps? Maybe some tobacco leaves make better wrappers than others?

I read a post here talking about when cutting the wrapper the top portion has less pronounced veins than the lower half?
 

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I suspect the biggest secret is they reject all but the most perfect leaves. When you consider most of the major factories grow and process their own leaf, they can be more selective and reject something that we would be thrilled to have access to.
Thank you. I was coming to that same conclusion my friend. I suppose we do the best we can with what we get. Blessings
 

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Yes, one has to keep in mind that big cigar/tobacco producers may have access to proprietary varieties (e.g. using genetic selection) that exhibit very specific characteristics that would give them an edge over competition.

Also given the high volume of raw product and the amount of staff which job is just to sort the leaves, everything is geared towards getting "the best" leaves for binders and wrappers.
 

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I can say with confidence that if you purchase cigar leaf from WLT, you are getting the same stuff that the cigar factories are getting. No secret bio-labs are sneaking extra special leaf into the factories. Same leaf; just a matter of scale. And many of the factories seem to have rather permissive quality control.

I am a lazy and casual cigar roller, since I care entirely about how it smokes, rather than how it looks. But below is a quick sample of the quality of my home-grown and home finished wrapper leaf—rolled by this lazy torcedor. And none of them have been squeezed in a mold. If you are patient with hydrating any wrapper, you can get the wrinkles out.

Machu Picchu Havana
Garden20140609_1212_MachuPicchuPuroCigar_400.jpg


Garden20150401_1675_fatTaperedCigar_500.jpg


Garden20150609_1823_cigar_HaciendaDelCura_600.jpg


Garden20150804_1974_cigar_VueltaAbajoWrapper_500.jpg


Garden20160904_2265_cigar_FLSumatra_wrapper_500.jpg


Garden20170916_3068_cigar_NostranoDelBrenta_topLeafPuro_600.jpg


Corojo 99
Garden20180122_3372_cigar_CorojoOscuro_wrapper_600.jpg


Garden20200618_5182_cigar_FLSumatra5yrs_700.jpg


Bob
 

Jason C

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I can say with confidence that if you purchase cigar leaf from WLT, you are getting the same stuff that the cigar factories are getting. No secret bio-labs are sneaking extra special leaf into the factories. Same leaf; just a matter of scale. And many of the factories seem to have rather permissive quality control.

I am a lazy and casual cigar roller, since I care entirely about how it smokes, rather than how it looks. But below is a quick sample of the quality of my home-grown and home finished wrapper leaf—rolled by this lazy torcedor. And none of them have been squeezed in a mold. If you are patient with hydrating any wrapper, you can get the wrinkles out.

Machu Picchu Havana
Garden20140609_1212_MachuPicchuPuroCigar_400.jpg


Garden20150401_1675_fatTaperedCigar_500.jpg


Garden20150609_1823_cigar_HaciendaDelCura_600.jpg


Garden20150804_1974_cigar_VueltaAbajoWrapper_500.jpg


Garden20160904_2265_cigar_FLSumatra_wrapper_500.jpg


Garden20170916_3068_cigar_NostranoDelBrenta_topLeafPuro_600.jpg


Corojo 99
Garden20180122_3372_cigar_CorojoOscuro_wrapper_600.jpg


Garden20200618_5182_cigar_FLSumatra5yrs_700.jpg


Bob
Bob those are beautiful. Can you give a brief explanation of your casing process? Thank you
 

deluxestogie

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Thank you for the kind words. (I left out all the many, many ugly ones I've photographed over the years.)
  • filler in low case
  • binder in medium case
  • wrapper in high case
For thinner wrappers, I mist them the evening before, and place them into a plastic bag. For thicker wrappers, I simply keep the misted wrappers in the bag for an extra day, which allows the thicker secondary veins to stretch.

Bob
 
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