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deluxestogie Grow Log 2014
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CT Tobaccoman
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That PA Swarr Hibshman looks very nice, big leaves. Is this a type of cigar filler? If so, how does it compare to PA Red as cigar filler. (I'm thinking about what to grow next year--I want to raise some USA cigar filler, and I'm leaning toward Little Dutch and one other.)
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This is the first time I have grown PA Swarr Hibshman, which is a filler type. So all that I can say is that the plant is pretty.
Bob
Mad Oshea
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That is a nice leaf Bob! Now was hat picked at the snap stage on it?
I assume you're asking about the leaf, rather than my hat. The leaf was thick and mature, not ripe. I'll be stalk-harvesting the PA Swarr-Hibshman, so I'll probably give the plants another few days to a week.
Bob
Bob
Comparing the two Cyprus varieties obtained by Markw. The Latakia blossom is not as pale a pink. Both have recessed pistils, which increases the probability of self-pollination when left un-bagged.
The tops of Cyprus Oriental mw were stalk-harvested. Since they would be exposed to wind during sun-curing, they are hung using a loop of wire. You can judge the size of these stalk segments by the wooden clothespins on the clothes line (below).
I primed the lugs of the Brasil Dunkel a few days ago, but the plants have been topped for several weeks. Even the top leaves are now thick and leathery. So I stalk-harvested them, and hung them in the shed.
Hornworm eggs can hatch on the leaf of stalk-harvested plants after they have gone to the shed. They don't seem to mind if their salad is wilted. They just eat what they're served. Below is the second hornworm, which I discovered in the Harrow Velvet today. The first was two days ago, on the same plant. If you don't spot these unwanted guests, they will grow to full-size monsters, and consume your conveniently spaced tobacco where it hangs.
Bob
Rickey60
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Please tell me more about Brasil Dunkil. It looks a lot like my mystery VBL. Did you send any of these seed to BB by chance? He told me that the VBL he sent me were from some seed you sent him last year.
I received the Brasil Dunkel seed from Knucklehead this spring. He obtained it from www.tabakanbau.de during the winter of 2013-14. My VA Bright this year is produced from my own VA Bright seed, and it looks like VA Bright.
Bob
Bob
The Mystery of Tobacco Variety Names
Bob
Bob
Cigar Leaf Excursion
Some wrapper types:
Magnolia and Metacomet are CT shade variants. (seed from Nicotiana Project donation) The Metacomet has reached over 8' in height, while the Magnolia is nearly as tall. As with all my new cigar varieties for 2014, I really won't know what I've got until early winter, after leaf has been cured and kilned.
Many members are familiar with Besuki wrappers. It is from Indonesia. The surprise is that this Besuki (seed from tabakanbau.de) is a white-stem wrapper variety. It seems to have a genetic defect in chlorophyll production that is similar to the white-stem burleys. Timor (PI 405659) was acquired by GRIN from the island of Java, also in Indonesia. The Timor looks more like a Sumatra type than the Besuki, and is reaching about 7-1/2' in height, with a high leaf count. (Seed for both of these from Knucklehead)
Some filler types:
Amarillo Parado (PI 377898) is a GRIN accession from the Dominican Republic. I'm still not sure just how "yellow" the Amarillo is. Columbian Garcia (PI 405672) is now at about 6', with no sign yet of buds. The leaves are medium in size, and attractive in shape. (Seed for both from Knucklehead)
Hacienda del Cura ("the Priest's Hacienda") is a long-established variety from the Canary Islands. In my hands, it hasn't been all that impressive. (Seed from Knucklehead)
Chichicaste 712 (PI 116087), a Honduran variety, is dark, with thick leaves. It grows well, though the leaf count is somewhat low. (Seed from Markw) Its appearance reminds me of Jalapa (from nearby Nicaragua).
These 4 Olor varieties (3 from Puerto Rico [seed from Knucklehead] and 1 from the Dominican Republic) look nearly identical. Certainly in growth habit and leaf shape, they are nearly indistinguishable. Their time to maturity varied directly with their proximity to the nearby maple tree. As they all reach their mature height, that is also nearly the same. If I notice any difference at all, it is that the Dominican Olor bears slightly wider leaves, but even this finding is suspect, since in a different bed in 2013 all of the Dom Olor leaves were much larger than any of these in the comparison grow. (I need to grow something other than tobacco in this bed.) Most noticeable is all the empty space within the bed. This is unhappy tobacco.
Bob
Some wrapper types:
Magnolia and Metacomet are CT shade variants. (seed from Nicotiana Project donation) The Metacomet has reached over 8' in height, while the Magnolia is nearly as tall. As with all my new cigar varieties for 2014, I really won't know what I've got until early winter, after leaf has been cured and kilned.
Many members are familiar with Besuki wrappers. It is from Indonesia. The surprise is that this Besuki (seed from tabakanbau.de) is a white-stem wrapper variety. It seems to have a genetic defect in chlorophyll production that is similar to the white-stem burleys. Timor (PI 405659) was acquired by GRIN from the island of Java, also in Indonesia. The Timor looks more like a Sumatra type than the Besuki, and is reaching about 7-1/2' in height, with a high leaf count. (Seed for both of these from Knucklehead)
Some filler types:
Amarillo Parado (PI 377898) is a GRIN accession from the Dominican Republic. I'm still not sure just how "yellow" the Amarillo is. Columbian Garcia (PI 405672) is now at about 6', with no sign yet of buds. The leaves are medium in size, and attractive in shape. (Seed for both from Knucklehead)
Hacienda del Cura ("the Priest's Hacienda") is a long-established variety from the Canary Islands. In my hands, it hasn't been all that impressive. (Seed from Knucklehead)
Chichicaste 712 (PI 116087), a Honduran variety, is dark, with thick leaves. It grows well, though the leaf count is somewhat low. (Seed from Markw) Its appearance reminds me of Jalapa (from nearby Nicaragua).
These 4 Olor varieties (3 from Puerto Rico [seed from Knucklehead] and 1 from the Dominican Republic) look nearly identical. Certainly in growth habit and leaf shape, they are nearly indistinguishable. Their time to maturity varied directly with their proximity to the nearby maple tree. As they all reach their mature height, that is also nearly the same. If I notice any difference at all, it is that the Dominican Olor bears slightly wider leaves, but even this finding is suspect, since in a different bed in 2013 all of the Dom Olor leaves were much larger than any of these in the comparison grow. (I need to grow something other than tobacco in this bed.) Most noticeable is all the empty space within the bed. This is unhappy tobacco.
Bob
DGBAMA
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Leaves of the Bezuki remind me of a banana tree. Nice looking plant.
Markw
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Nice looking plants there Bob. Knuck's was growing the Hacienda del Cura alongside the La Palma to see if they were the same plant. I suppose the proof will be in the smoking at the end of the day. I still want to grow the metacomet next year it looks a monster.
POGreen
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I have some Brasil Dunkel seed comin in from tabakenbau.de next week Rick.
Can send u some if you're interested.
PO
Mystery of the Perforated Agribon
There it was. Plain as day. Just like jitterbugdude predicted. Something had created a hole in the Agribon-AG15 bud bag on my Djebel 174. There were no obvious suspects. No other bags had been damaged during the entire 2014 grow.
Evidence was gathered at the scene of the crime. A curious finding was a slight thickening and darkening of the margin of the hole. Clearly not natural causes.
Careful forensics led to only one conclusion. Something had melted a hole into the Agribon! A fire-breathing locust?
I squatted beside the short plant, and examined the hole once more. As I did so, I noticed the the tip of the cigar in my mouth coming precariously close to the bud bag. Could it be? The perpetrator had apparently squatted beside the plant, in order to commit the crime.
Doh!
Bob
There it was. Plain as day. Just like jitterbugdude predicted. Something had created a hole in the Agribon-AG15 bud bag on my Djebel 174. There were no obvious suspects. No other bags had been damaged during the entire 2014 grow.
Evidence was gathered at the scene of the crime. A curious finding was a slight thickening and darkening of the margin of the hole. Clearly not natural causes.
Careful forensics led to only one conclusion. Something had melted a hole into the Agribon! A fire-breathing locust?
I squatted beside the short plant, and examined the hole once more. As I did so, I noticed the the tip of the cigar in my mouth coming precariously close to the bud bag. Could it be? The perpetrator had apparently squatted beside the plant, in order to commit the crime.
Doh!
Bob
squeezyjohn
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Haha Bob!
Surely this is the time of year you don't need to smoke while you're checking your tobacco? Just harvest a few leaves here and there and the sticky residue on your hands will provide enough vitamin N to keep you goin'
Surely this is the time of year you don't need to smoke while you're checking your tobacco? Just harvest a few leaves here and there and the sticky residue on your hands will provide enough vitamin N to keep you goin'
DGBAMA
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Lol.
BarG
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Mystery of the Perforated Agribon
There it was. Plain as day. Just like jitterbugdude predicted. Something had created a hole in the Agribon-AG15 bud bag on my Djebel 174. There were no obvious suspects. No other bags had been damaged during the entire 2014 grow.
Evidence was gathered at the scene of the crime. A curious finding was a slight thickening and darkening of the margin of the hole. Clearly not natural causes.
Careful forensics led to only one conclusion. Something had melted a hole into the Agribon! A fire-breathing locust?
I squatted beside the short plant, and examined the hole once more. As I did so, I noticed the the tip of the cigar in my mouth coming precariously close to the bud bag. Could it be? The perpetrator had apparently squatted beside the plant, in order to commit the crime.
Doh!
Bob
The funniest post I have read in a while. And the culprit is!
leverhead
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Actually, I'm surprised the perp didn't smell it.
BarG
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I suggest baling wire or duct tape . caulk is out of the question for the mend.
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