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Whatever you replace it with will just sit there in transplant shock for two weeks. If I had a replacement that was more advanced than the damaged plant, I might replace it. Otherwise, I would just see what it sprouts.

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I had just transplanted that one there from a severely shaded spot in the front yard about 3 days before it got broken. I'm almost tempted to plant one of my slightly older plants that's growing in our crappy unamended soil and not doing so well in that spot. I don't know if I have the heart to yank the existing plant out... Of course leaving the other plant in bad soil to suffer is awful mean too. Alas, It's such a cruel world - I'm going to require therapy after these tough choices:LOL: Screw it I'll just flip a coin;)
 

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Ninja Rat still lives. I hear him gnawing away happily in the family room wall and there is an new pile of insulation at the opening of its hole in the garage today. 2 new live catch traps have been added to the arsenal of sticky traps, multiple types of rat traps, and two different poison baits in the garage.

I tried the direct approach last night and put a sticky trap at the opening of its hole and a rat trap next to it. The little buger managed to push both the sticky trap and rat trap ever so slightly out of the way so it could walk through.

Darn you Ninja Rat! Darn you to heck!
 

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What is funny is that when I read about Ninja Rat pushing aside the two traps at the exit, the first thing that came to my mind was that it's a perfect situation for a deadfall trap. Say an 8' long 8"x 8" timber, supported by a thin dowel attached to the side edge of a thin shim of plywood that mostly blocks the hole. Arrange so that pressure from the inside (like trying to open the "door") causes the dowel to rotate just a smidgen.

Ninja Rat is toast!

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What is funny is that when I read about Ninja Rat pushing aside the two traps at the exit, the first thing that came to my mind was that it's a perfect situation for a deadfall trap. Say an 8' long 8"x 8" timber, supported by a thin dowel attached to the side edge of a thin shim of plywood that mostly blocks the hole. Arrange so that pressure from the inside (like trying to open the "door") causes the dowel to rotate just a smidgen.

Ninja Rat is toast!

Bob

Or a snare trap.

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I was actually contemplating a snare trap but I don't have a snare wire. That would be perfect by its hole.

Alpine don't tempt me with the 12 gauge idea. If the rat is making it that far into the family room wall that means I probably have some rotted out 2x4's that need replaced anyway.
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This is a little off topic from tobacco, but I've noticed other people have posted threads on rat problems in the past. I usually don't have issues with trapping them but this year I've wound up with an especially smart rodent(s) that has got into the garage and proceed to eat a hole in the wall and spit out large amounts of insulation. Judging by the size and copious amounts of turds it leave everywhere there appears to be at least 1 fairly large rat. I've tried mouse traps, rat traps, sticky traps, and even the careful use of poison (contained and inside the garage with the garage remaining shut except to pull the car in or out). I've used cheese, cracked corn, peanut butter, and honey roasted peanuts for bait (which usually works very well in the backyard) but haven't even gotten a sprung trap yet. I've got an indoor cat, but she wouldn't know what to do with a rat.

This rat is doing some damage and I'm concerned it may eventually make its way up into the attic, which worries me since I replumbed the hot water lines in our house with PEX (plastic tubing rodents are known to chew through occasionally). I also kiln my tobacco in the attic and don't want the rat up there smoking my tobacco:)
Does anyone have any tips for baits or traps or even poison for hard to kill rats (i.e. rats more intelligent than myself)? Unfortunately shooting them isn't an option in the garage - this rat has been smart enough to not show itself regardless of the time I go out there anyway.

It's a squirrel. Put nuts in the trap.
 

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Ninja Rat still lives. I hear him gnawing away happily in the family room wall and there is an new pile of insulation at the opening of its hole in the garage today. 2 new live catch traps have been added to the arsenal of sticky traps, multiple types of rat traps, and two different poison baits in the garage.

I tried the direct approach last night and put a sticky trap at the opening of its hole and a rat trap next to it. The little buger managed to push both the sticky trap and rat trap ever so slightly out of the way so it could walk through.

Darn you Ninja Rat! Darn you to heck!
Years ago when I was working for the mine I had a stoat build it's house under the hens nest box. In the end I got an apple and injected it with cynide. Stuffed said apple firmly into hole. Next day filled in hole, no more stoat.
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Gummy bears are intensely aromatic inside their packaging. Once a misbehaving bear has been sentenced to the mouse trap, it seems to lose its aroma within a week or less. For this lucky one, I provided Bob's Miracle Hair Growth Cream (smooth peanutbutter) to its head. I think it's been in that same, remote spot for seven months.

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Gummy bears are intensely aromatic inside their packaging. Once a misbehaving bear has been sentenced to the mouse trap, it seems to lose its aroma within a week or less. For this lucky one, I provided Bob's Miracle Hair Growth Cream (smooth peanutbutter) to its head. I think it's been in that same, remote spot for seven months.

Bob
Going to have to borrow a razor from @tullius and give that guy a shave:)
I still have yet to try the authentic gummy bears. I did give the dog food a shot though - no takers yet. I've got chicken food pellets and cracked corn in the live catch traps, figure they should be used to that, we'll see.
 

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Going to have to borrow a razor from @tullius and give that guy a shave:)
I still have yet to try the authentic gummy bears. I did give the dog food a shot though - no takers yet. I've got chicken food pellets and cracked corn in the live catch traps, figure they should be used to that, we'll see.

Yeah, I'm thinkin' dog food, paiute dead fall. This little guy has been like a "Tom and Jerry" episode.
 

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If I happen to catch Ninja Rat in a live catch trap I plan on interrogating him and doing some intelligence testing. So far he has proven smarter than me I want to know his secrets. After that I'll have to take him into work and release him in my coworkers office:) Kidding about that last part, maybe...
 

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I wouldn't worry about Ninja Rat's intelligence. I suspect his PhD is in some vague, general humanities subject, like Community Studies.

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I once was making derogatory remarks about what sort of moron would get a PhD in art to my father in law. Shortly after I made that statement I stopped and realized he was one of those morons that has a PhD in art... Whoops. The guy has written books, worked for multiple museums, and had his own very profitable side business for many years. He's probably made five times the amount of money than I ever will - even with me having a much more academically acceptable "real" degree in science:)
I guess the true test of intelligence could be measured in how well one can adapt and create an acceptable life for themselves. Going by that standard the rat is still ahead:poop:
 

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Greetings, plantdude. I had a somewhat similar multi-week duel w a Ninja Rat type rodent a few years back.
 
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