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I periodically check on my tobacco in the kiln, and I've found that some bits are still a bit crispy. I had assumed that the leaves would come into case when placed into the high humidity environment of the kiln, but perhaps this is not correct.
Do I need to spray the leaves with water to bring them into case before placing into the kiln?
 

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At a given fixed temperature, all the leaves are exposed to the same humidity. Each time the Crockpot cycles to "on", the leaf tips near the ceramic will temporarily become warmer, and the leaf's moisture will evaporate--until the ambient temp in the kiln stabilizes again. So a good kiln seal, and fan ventilation will minimize this transient effect.

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My kiln is well sealed, and includes a fan for circulation. It's been running for 3-4 days, and has lost less than a quart of water.

At a given fixed temperature, all the leaves are exposed to the same humidity. Each time the Crockpot cycles to "on", the leaf tips near the ceramic will temporarily become warmer, and the leaf's moisture will evaporate--until the ambient temp in the kiln stabilizes again. So a good kiln seal, and fan ventilation will minimize this transient effect.

Bob
 

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Leftynick: I had to learn this the hard way. Like I said, if you are going to shred & blend the "crispy" tobacco into a cigarette, that's okay. Not so good for cigar leaf.

mwaller: spritz those leaves!

1.) Not all leaves are equal. Each will have different thickness and moisture absorption / holding rates. ( Bottom, mid, upper leaves, etc.) Also, different varieties will behave differently. If you were trying to kiln Stolac 17, good luck with that one! Stolac has extremely thick leaves and is difficult to deal with effectively.

2.) At 125 to 130 degrees in a kiln, the air will hold a lot more moisture than 70 degree air. One of the other members could probably come up with a table showing what kind of humidity is necessary to keep leaves moist at 125 - 130 degrees. My own guess is that the humidity in your kiln should be above 70%. When I was first starting out, I was advised to kiln at 70 - 85% humidity. Bob (deluxestogie aka: the tobacco guru) has said in a previous post that tobacco will not mold at temps above 120.

Kilning is a tricky thing. But when you get it right it's a great thing. I had to fail a few times before I got the hang of it. Freshly (read properly) kilned tobacco has a distinctive scent and texture all its own. In the immortal words of Douglas Adams, author of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, "Don't Panic"!

Good luck, happy kilning, and (eventual) happy burning.

Wes H.
 

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Good analogy! You must be a Platonist at heart. Didn't they feed him the juice of the Hemlock plant? Or was it the juice of Stolac 17 plant? Oh...that's right, the Europeans hadn't discovered tobacco yet.

I guess we'll have to blame that one on the Italian Navigator.

Wes H.

Oh...and by the way, I used to know a guy who was a B-17 pilot that spent two years in one of those luft stalag camps. He weighed 90 pounds when he got out. He got his revenge in the end though. He lived to be 94!
 

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mwaller:

Are you getting the smoke and haze in your area. These big fires in the Cascades are making the air around here unhealthy. Visibility is down to about two miles. It's like we had a medium level of fog. The sun is orange even in mid-day.

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Yes, it's terrible here. The sun was bright red this morning. My car was covered with a light dusting of ash!

mwaller:

Are you getting the smoke and haze in your area. These big fires in the Cascades are making the air around here unhealthy. Visibility is down to about two miles. It's like we had a medium level of fog. The sun is orange even in mid-day.

Wes H.
 

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I use a fridge to kin in, it's one of the common ones that allows cold air to fall down from the freezer to keep the refrigerator box cold. This connection allows me to put tobacco in the freezer section to hydrate without losing the heat in the bottom. Try it out some time if you're using one, works great.
 

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The forecast for today was 92. The haze kept it down to the mid 80's. Too much particulate matter in the air.

This morning the media was saying that the big fire near Snoqualmie Pass was at 27 square miles burning and zero percent contained. The story I got was that some idiot thought it would be cool to light off fireworks for the labor day weekend. That might of been the big fire down by Hood River my friend was talking about, I'm not sure. Said friend was heading east out of Portland this weekend and said the traffic in I-84 was down to 35-40 due to all the looky-lews taking pictures with their cell phones. Looks like we might be in for a long one. Sometimes those big fires burn until the snowfall finally puts them out.

Have a good one!

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First kiln load has been going for a week. The intensity of the smells have decreased, but it still doesn't smell at all like tobacco. Hay is probably the closest descriptor...
 

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Havana 142 has me stumped... The leaves are showing some obvious signs of maturity - yellow highlights, downturned edges etc. But, the tips are not particularly yellow. Should I continue to wait on these leaves, or are they ready for harvest?
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My Havana 142 has produced relatively thin leaves compared with other varietals. When they dry, they are quite delicate. I'm not expecting these to get much thicker.
I prefer thicker leaves simply because they are easier to handle. I have no experience smoking my own leaves, so I can't comment from that perspective.
Are you satisfied with their thickness?


Etes-vous satisfait de leur épaisseur ?
 

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I had already decided against a sucker crop and was ready to pull out my Corojo 99, but my wife told me that our 80+ year-old neighbor recently stopped by to say how much he enjoyed watching the plants grow... So, they will stay for a while
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