BarG
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Dark Fire Wrapper
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What kind of blends are people wrapping with this stuff? The leaf looks so good Im having trouble convincing myself to use it as filler lol. I was thinking of wrapping a bunch of petite coronas with it to try and get the most out of it.
charlie G.
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I've never seen or used the fire cured but would love to try it some day as a binder or wrapper. Sounds real interesting to me.
ArizonaDave
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That's an easy blend to copy and make at home, and a lot less expensive than buying from Drew Estate.
San Andres Maduro Wrapper
Nic. Habano Seco Binder
Braz. Mata Fina
Kentucky Fire Cured
Not wrapping it with anything. I'm using it for pipe tobacco blends.
I'd have to sub the SA for PA Oscuro but I may give this a try.
ArizonaDave
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ChinaVoodoo
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I'm still learning how to roll, and need to watch more videos. I have the dark fire wrapper. It's thick. I thought wrapper was generally not thick. So far my rolls have burned through the inside and the wrapper doesn't burn so well as a cigar. Ive had success with it as a Toscano type cheroot though. I suspect I'm either using too much and perhaps not stretching it enough. Is there specific advice for this wrapper over and above above regular wrapper?
MarcL
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A tighter wrapper will burn better. A thicker wrapper is going to want more time to absorb moister to be able to stretch tight then something thinner. ..some tips, let the bunch dry some before application to assist wicking moisture away from the wrapper. It should get more time before smoking.
ChinaVoodoo
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More time, as in a few days?
MarcL
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It will depend on how moist it is. .. You will learn that in time.
Something in theory I carry into cigars is how when making a cigarette, I discovered that to get the results I wanted, I needed to have the tobacco to wet to smoke but wet enough to create a density or, displacement to burn nice when dried some.
Thicker tobaccos will burn slower. That is why we want to build from the center, out. ligero - thick, viso - thin, seco - thinner, volado - thinnest.
When we want to smoke fresh or, early smokes, I think they need to have a different mind set. The thing is, we need to have supple leaf to handle it without breaking it to some degree. And the fillers will need to be drier and looser.
Something in theory I carry into cigars is how when making a cigarette, I discovered that to get the results I wanted, I needed to have the tobacco to wet to smoke but wet enough to create a density or, displacement to burn nice when dried some.
Thicker tobaccos will burn slower. That is why we want to build from the center, out. ligero - thick, viso - thin, seco - thinner, volado - thinnest.
When we want to smoke fresh or, early smokes, I think they need to have a different mind set. The thing is, we need to have supple leaf to handle it without breaking it to some degree. And the fillers will need to be drier and looser.
For a thicker wrapper leaf, trim it so that there is minimal overlap. Use a well-burning binder.
Bob
Bob
ArizonaDave
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I second that, Bob. I've switched to using Dark fire to filler to see which I enjoy the most. Had a Bob special the other day, Red Tip with a Ct. Broadleaf wrapper. It was real good.
charlie G.
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I just got a leaf or two of this dark Fire and wrapping up a few test cigars with it as filler to see how it is. I will say the aroma makes my mouth water.
I'm now craving a rack of ribs.
I'm now craving a rack of ribs.
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