Ok, I try all your recipes and I experiment some too, but this is an experiment that turned out good so I will share.
I wanted to try something that is stored as powder and hydrated shortly before use to eliminate any concerns about things that might happen in storage or the need to store in any particular way. I've also noticed a trend of nicotine seeming to decrease over time in fully made products. Most of my batches have been meh going down this road, this one turned out nice and it's only 3 days old, I started noticing the really pleasing barnyard aroma after the end of the second day.
The mission is to have a product that you might hydrate as you're running low on the previous batch to have it ready a few days later.
The tobacco used this time was red tips, but I want to try the next batch as dark air as that seems overall a better tobacco for smokeless use. The ingredients are:
Tobacco flour
Water
Salt 10% of flour
Washing soda 10% of flour
Bourbon
Process:
In a big bowl separate ribs and lamina of tobacco that hasn't been toasted in any way, just left out in a dry area until it shatters when handled. Take the ribs and the veins and grind them to a powder. We want this fine, but not snuff grade fine. Sieving through a common metal kitchen seive or a splatter guard is perfect. Repeat with the lamina and regrind anything that doesn't go through the seive. The idea is for it to allow moisture to flow through it reasonably freely but still be able to pack.
Take your salt and soda and add to a clear glass and heat up a teapot. Add just enough water to where everything can go into solution. Mix and let sit until water is clear again, add more boiling water if it isn't clear within a few minutes. In this batch I used a single packet of splenda to counteract any bitterness from the lack of a cook, not sure it was necessary though.
Mix water into the flour while still hot and mix it good. I mix with a fork inside a small jar, alternating mixing and shaking until all the flour is hydrated. At this point it should be crumbly and very hard to form a pris or anything. Let it sit for an hour or overnight to be sure water is all soaked up. If it's very dry still I'd add more water, but I'd want it to still be on the dry side.
After resting, drizzle bourbon in while mixing until it gets to the moisture level where you can form a pris. This is a bit coarser grind so you'll never get a rock hard pris like with a fine grind but that's fine, it's what this recipe is after, and it's not an accident, I did a lot of tests trying to get the right seive, not too fine or coarse, plus we specifically use the ribs because we don't want the mass to be able to compact to tightly, saliva has to be able to flow through it without too much trouble.
So, don't try it right away, it'll burn for another day at least. When it stops off gassing quite so much feel free to try it. Mine stopped gassing around beginning of day 2, I'd shake it and smell periodically.
I use Kim Wipes as a snus pouch, if you have access to these they are great, like a Kleenex but it has about the same cohesive strength as a teabag. Upper deck it's the same as any snus, lower deck it's the same as any super fine cut dip. Aroma is great. The whiskey melts into the background but certainly adds to the end experience. Could probably add any spirit to change the flavor.
It doesn't extract too fast that it gives hiccups in the upper deck, in the lower you'd want to spit.
Hope you guys get a chance to try it, if you do, do a small batch as it's meant to be fresh, and unrefrigerated.
Read post #7 below.
I wanted to try something that is stored as powder and hydrated shortly before use to eliminate any concerns about things that might happen in storage or the need to store in any particular way. I've also noticed a trend of nicotine seeming to decrease over time in fully made products. Most of my batches have been meh going down this road, this one turned out nice and it's only 3 days old, I started noticing the really pleasing barnyard aroma after the end of the second day.
The mission is to have a product that you might hydrate as you're running low on the previous batch to have it ready a few days later.
The tobacco used this time was red tips, but I want to try the next batch as dark air as that seems overall a better tobacco for smokeless use. The ingredients are:
Tobacco flour
Water
Salt 10% of flour
Washing soda 10% of flour
Bourbon
Process:
In a big bowl separate ribs and lamina of tobacco that hasn't been toasted in any way, just left out in a dry area until it shatters when handled. Take the ribs and the veins and grind them to a powder. We want this fine, but not snuff grade fine. Sieving through a common metal kitchen seive or a splatter guard is perfect. Repeat with the lamina and regrind anything that doesn't go through the seive. The idea is for it to allow moisture to flow through it reasonably freely but still be able to pack.
Take your salt and soda and add to a clear glass and heat up a teapot. Add just enough water to where everything can go into solution. Mix and let sit until water is clear again, add more boiling water if it isn't clear within a few minutes. In this batch I used a single packet of splenda to counteract any bitterness from the lack of a cook, not sure it was necessary though.
Mix water into the flour while still hot and mix it good. I mix with a fork inside a small jar, alternating mixing and shaking until all the flour is hydrated. At this point it should be crumbly and very hard to form a pris or anything. Let it sit for an hour or overnight to be sure water is all soaked up. If it's very dry still I'd add more water, but I'd want it to still be on the dry side.
After resting, drizzle bourbon in while mixing until it gets to the moisture level where you can form a pris. This is a bit coarser grind so you'll never get a rock hard pris like with a fine grind but that's fine, it's what this recipe is after, and it's not an accident, I did a lot of tests trying to get the right seive, not too fine or coarse, plus we specifically use the ribs because we don't want the mass to be able to compact to tightly, saliva has to be able to flow through it without too much trouble.
So, don't try it right away, it'll burn for another day at least. When it stops off gassing quite so much feel free to try it. Mine stopped gassing around beginning of day 2, I'd shake it and smell periodically.
I use Kim Wipes as a snus pouch, if you have access to these they are great, like a Kleenex but it has about the same cohesive strength as a teabag. Upper deck it's the same as any snus, lower deck it's the same as any super fine cut dip. Aroma is great. The whiskey melts into the background but certainly adds to the end experience. Could probably add any spirit to change the flavor.
It doesn't extract too fast that it gives hiccups in the upper deck, in the lower you'd want to spit.
Hope you guys get a chance to try it, if you do, do a small batch as it's meant to be fresh, and unrefrigerated.
Read post #7 below.
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