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Although I'm not a bee keeper, a tobacco related honey really take my attention.

As I recall from last year there was some conversations about tobacco honey. Today I got some local honeys and one of them really made me surprised, “Şemdinli Balı” (Şemdinli Honey).

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Şemdinli is the easternmost district of Hakkari province, has borders to both Iraq and Iran.

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Because of its rich flora and endemic plants (10 of them are endemic to Şemdinli), especially honey plants, the plateaues/uplands of this region produce special honeys.

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A photo from Silo Upland.

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Some beehives in a sheltered small valley.

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Ters Lale (Fritillaria imperialis)

This bulbous plant is native to cold highlands of Anatolia, especially in Adıyaman and Hakkari but not a honey plant.


Back to topic, there was a small booklet with the honey jar. The “diagram of sensual analysis profile” says that there’s an intense tobacco scent in the honey (approx. 3 of 8 intensity). I don’t know the techniques people use for determining the senses so I might translate the terms wrong.

Here’s the diagram ;

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It’s very well known that there was tobacco production in Şemdinli in the past, I don’t know the situation today. There’s an accession on GRIN, PI 494162 – Semdinli. Although the plant photo in the system looks undefinable, Şemdinli is evaluated in Bitlis tobacco group but leaves are more elliptic, wider auricled and thinner textured. It’s reported that Şemdinli is one of the most scented tobaccos in this region. May be there're still some growers there and bees are visiting them frequently.

I tasted the honey, the taste evoked nutty (especially walnut) flavors to me. Well, it really smells like some sweet tobacco (not dominant) mixed with spicy flower scents. I wish you can get this scent too.
 

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Yes, it really is ! And good area for trekking (on summer). Actually only the altitude, which is approx. 8500 feet, may be breathtaking alone. :)
 

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Sounds like some good stuff. I have not tried raw honey as of yet. Not meaning to stray from topic... I hear it's good to buy local raw honey, reason being for allergies. Somehow the pollens found in it will help counter allergies associated with it. The scenery there is beautiful.

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I agree, those pictures show spectacular natural scenery. Makes me regret, once again, that when I went to Turkey, that I didn't get farther east than Cappadocia. One of these days I absolutely must go back.
 

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Sounds like some good stuff. I have not tried raw honey as of yet. Not meaning to stray from topic... I hear it's good to buy local raw honey, reason being for allergies. Somehow the pollens found in it will help counter allergies associated with it. The scenery there is beautiful.

Gary

I generally buy comb honey, especially "semi-wild" natural honeycomb honeys are really good but a little hard to find and expensive. The beeswax is very thin, it melts out in the mouth and edible.

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It's an all natural hive, just a hollow wood block. Bee work without human intervention.
 

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I've heard with natural hives, they typically kill off the bees before they harvest.
Doesn't seem like a sound practice to kill off bees nowadays, does anyone know if they still do this?
 

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I don't think they kill the bee. I saw it few times, they open the back side of the hive and puff some smoke until bee left the hive then take the honey. I'm sure they left some honey for the bee also.
 

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I see, thanks for clearing that up for me. Last thing we need in the world is less of them. We are lucky enough to enjoy a vast number of Italian honey bees in the valley. I know of at least 3 apiaries within a few miles.
One year, we had a hive set up shop in one of the cull logs out back. (about 3 foot at the butt) We would have had a hell of a time getting honey off them, but it made the log useful for a few years!
 
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