Whole Leaf Tobacco

Tobacco tastes?

burge

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2014
Messages
1,291
Points
83
Location
Alberta
Where tobacco is grown directly impacts the taste of tobacco. Virginia especially fits the bill. All tobacco is like that from Turkish to wrapper. to perique. There is a reason why people want genuine tobaccos ie Canadian Virginia genuine Perique genuine Turkish.
 

tullius

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2019
Messages
698
Points
93
Location
NE Ohio
Canadian Virginia...genuine tobaccos. Good grief.

I am one of the original reviewers on what is now tobaccoreviews.com. When they changed hands, I didn't follow, so they removed the username from my reviews. Terrible mistake. Reviews are helpful if they're from a skilled taster/blender.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

fimbrew

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 22, 2018
Messages
83
Points
18
Location
Tucson
Now, if a "flavor wheel" included such entries as feces, cat urine, skunk, decay, then I might see some hope for it. But when I describe the undertone of most Perique as manure, some folks are repulsed by that truth.
In beer judging we use barnyard for feces, ammonia for cat urine, skunky for skunk , and earthy for decay. We also use horse blanket and wet dog (which might be appropriate for the style) and many others. Cat litter is one that is used to describe some of the new popular hops. Even though there may be more descriptive terms they are good enough to get the idea across with out being repulsive. You could always get more descriptive if you felt you needed to. For example woody is very vague. It could be pine, oak, cedar, wet wood or freshly cut. But woody is usually good enough, I hate when they use pungent or mossy. What does moss smell like?
 

Patriotguy

Active Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2019
Messages
44
Points
18
Location
ohio
In beer judging we use barnyard for feces, ammonia for cat urine, skunky for skunk , and earthy for decay. We also use horse blanket and wet dog (which might be appropriate for the style) and many others. Cat litter is one that is used to describe some of the new popular hops. Even though there may be more descriptive terms they are good enough to get the idea across with out being repulsive. You could always get more descriptive if you felt you needed to. For example woody is very vague. It could be pine, oak, cedar, wet wood or freshly cut. But woody is usually good enough, I hate when they use pungent or mossy. What does moss smell like?
It is funny how different peoples palates are, tried watching a review of a cigar I am smoking while I am smoking it. I'm sitting here thinking wow it tasted like malted milk ball candy and the guys like it just taste like wood all the way through.
 

burge

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2014
Messages
1,291
Points
83
Location
Alberta
I literally have tears in my eyes I’m laughing so hard. However, in all fairness we should address some of the more positive flavor notes too such as:

Dark chocolate
Jasmine
Nutmeg
Molasses
Vanilla cream
Black pepper
Ancho pepper

Oh, and you left out B.O. and blue cheese.
I have a dark chocolate smell out of the red virginia I got from 4 years ago and its real good but just need a little of it. I just love smelling the tobacco.
 

deluxestogie

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 25, 2011
Messages
17,744
Points
113
Location
near Blacksburg, VA
I just love smelling the tobacco.
I think that is a problem shared by us all. I love stepping into my curing shed. (Others crinkle their noses as the smell.) I love the smell of my tobacco kiln going full blast. And I always love sticking my nose into a bag of whole leaf. Each different tobacco variety offers its own, unique and happy aroma. I love the smell of various Cavendish tobaccos, and really love the smell of Latakia. Perique is the black sheep of the flock.

Bob
 

Charly

Moderator
Joined
May 1, 2016
Messages
2,086
Points
113
Location
France
That's a funny way to represent the flavors of a cigar. It's highly subjective, but original.
 

GreenDragon

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2018
Messages
1,390
Points
113
Location
Austin, TX
https://i.imgur.com/wbnxTpU.png
I rolled my eyes when I first saw this post, but on reflection it is a unique and fun way this guy documents the change in flavors he experiences as the cigar is smoked. Also, who doesn't like to play with these?

colors.jpg
 

waikikigun

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 24, 2015
Messages
1,284
Points
113
I only read this thread to make sure there's no spam. ;)
What's great about this thread is that it's totally OT from the OP's post. He asked "Is there any kind of a chart or a graph that would give you information as too the basic flavor characteristics of different types of tobacco plants?" and no one went anywhere near that question (except Deluxestogie, briefly), instead immediately going into the topic of "flavors people detect in cigars." He must think we're all (Deluxestogie excepted) somewhat poor at comprehending strings o' them word thingies.
 

ChinaVoodoo

Moderator
Joined
Sep 1, 2014
Messages
5,807
Points
113
Location
Edmonton, AB, CA
What's great about this thread is that it's totally OT from the OP's post. He asked "Is there any kind of a chart or a graph that would give you information as too the basic flavor characteristics of different types of tobacco plants?" and no one went anywhere near that question (except Deluxestogie, briefly), instead immediately going into the topic of "flavors people detect in cigars." He must think we're all (Deluxestogie excepted) somewhat poor at comprehending strings o' them word thingies.
Ok. Here's an idea. Start with a comprehensive flavour wheel and everyone crosses off the flavours they have never tasted in a cigar.
 

MarcL

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2013
Messages
3,921
Points
113
Location
Central Maryland
Here is something on tobacco-tastes. The first video is 2 hours and sells this book Cigar Bliss, Demystifies the Art of Taste. (Nick Cutro) >> https://www.2guyscigars.com/cigar-bliss-book
Here is the kit in addition to the book.>> https://www.propalate.net/
The first thing it made me think was @blisscigarco. I wonder if they got a hold of that Home Rollers Cigar Flavor wheel?
The second podcast is 26 minutes of more of the same.


 
Top