Tobacco tastes?

[burge]

Where tobacco is grown directly impacts the taste of tobacco. Virginia especially fits the bill. All tobacco is like that from Turkish to wrapper. to perique. There is a reason why people want genuine tobaccos ie Canadian Virginia genuine Perique genuine Turkish.

 

[tullius]

Canadian Virginia...genuine tobaccos. Good grief.

I am one of the original reviewers on what is now tobaccoreviews.com. When they changed hands, I didn't follow, so they removed the username from my reviews. Terrible mistake. Reviews are helpful if they're from a skilled taster/blender.

 

[fimbrew]

Now, if a "flavor wheel" included such entries as feces, cat urine, skunk, decay, then I might see some hope for it. But when I describe the undertone of most Perique as manure, some folks are repulsed by that truth.

In beer judging we use barnyard for feces, ammonia for cat urine, skunky for skunk , and earthy for decay. We also use horse blanket and wet dog (which might be appropriate for the style) and many others. Cat litter is one that is used to describe some of the new popular hops. Even though there may be more descriptive terms they are good enough to get the idea across with out being repulsive. You could always get more descriptive if you felt you needed to. For example woody is very vague. It could be pine, oak, cedar, wet wood or freshly cut. But woody is usually good enough, I hate when they use pungent or mossy. What does moss smell like?

 

[Patriotguy]

In beer judging we use barnyard for feces, ammonia for cat urine, skunky for skunk , and earthy for decay. We also use horse blanket and wet dog (which might be appropriate for the style) and many others. Cat litter is one that is used to describe some of the new popular hops. Even though there may be more descriptive terms they are good enough to get the idea across with out being repulsive. You could always get more descriptive if you felt you needed to. For example woody is very vague. It could be pine, oak, cedar, wet wood or freshly cut. But woody is usually good enough, I hate when they use pungent or mossy. What does moss smell like?

It is funny how different peoples palates are, tried watching a review of a cigar I am smoking while I am smoking it. I'm sitting here thinking wow it tasted like malted milk ball candy and the guys like it just taste like wood all the way through.

 

[burge]

I literally have tears in my eyes I’m laughing so hard. However, in all fairness we should address some of the more positive flavor notes too such as:

Dark chocolate
Jasmine
Nutmeg
Molasses
Vanilla cream
Black pepper
Ancho pepper

Oh, and you left out B.O. and blue cheese.

I have a dark chocolate smell out of the red virginia I got from 4 years ago and its real good but just need a little of it. I just love smelling the tobacco.

 

[deluxestogie]

I just love smelling the tobacco.

I think that is a problem shared by us all. I love stepping into my curing shed. (Others crinkle their noses as the smell.) I love the smell of my tobacco kiln going full blast. And I always love sticking my nose into a bag of whole leaf. Each different tobacco variety offers its own, unique and happy aroma. I love the smell of various Cavendish tobaccos, and really love the smell of Latakia. Perique is the black sheep of the flock.

Bob

 

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[Charly]

That's a funny way to represent the flavors of a cigar. It's highly subjective, but original.

 

[deluxestogie]

It's good to know where I can find coffee, if I run out.

Bob

 

[waikikigun]

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I'm not sure that thing's gonna burn too well until you get down to the tobacco and wood.

 

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I rolled my eyes when I first saw this post, but on reflection it is a unique and fun way this guy documents the change in flavors he experiences as the cigar is smoked. Also, who doesn't like to play with these?

 

[deluxestogie]

That's obviously wrong. He scientifically documents at least 11 fun colors. And yes, I used to taste my watercolor paints when I was three.

Bob

 

[MarcL]

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[waikikigun]

I kinda miss the days (up to the mid 90s?) when cigars either tasted "good" or they didn't taste "good."

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I kinda miss the days (up to the mid 90s?) when cigars either tasted "good" or they didn't taste "good."

I only read this thread to make sure there's no spam.

 

[waikikigun]

I only read this thread to make sure there's no spam.

What's great about this thread is that it's totally OT from the OP's post. He asked "Is there any kind of a chart or a graph that would give you information as too the basic flavor characteristics of different types of tobacco plants?" and no one went anywhere near that question (except Deluxestogie, briefly), instead immediately going into the topic of "flavors people detect in cigars." He must think we're all (Deluxestogie excepted) somewhat poor at comprehending strings o' them word thingies.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

What's great about this thread is that it's totally OT from the OP's post. He asked "Is there any kind of a chart or a graph that would give you information as too the basic flavor characteristics of different types of tobacco plants?" and no one went anywhere near that question (except Deluxestogie, briefly), instead immediately going into the topic of "flavors people detect in cigars." He must think we're all (Deluxestogie excepted) somewhat poor at comprehending strings o' them word thingies.

Ok. Here's an idea. Start with a comprehensive flavour wheel and everyone crosses off the flavours they have never tasted in a cigar.

 

[burge]

I'm not sure that thing's gonna burn too well until you get down to the tobacco and wood.

That is from people rolling the stalks

 

[MarcL]

Here is something on tobacco-tastes. The first video is 2 hours and sells this book Cigar Bliss, Demystifies the Art of Taste. (Nick Cutro) >> https://www.2guyscigars.com/cigar-bliss-book
Here is the kit in addition to the book.>> https://www.propalate.net/
The first thing it made me think was @blisscigarco. I wonder if they got a hold of that Home Rollers Cigar Flavor wheel?
The second podcast is 26 minutes of more of the same.

VODCast: Demystifying the Art of Taste of Cigars –

Today we welcome to the show Nick Cutro the man behind cigar molds and well as an author of a book on tasting cigars live in studio.

thecigarauthority.com

The After Show Tries To Extend The Flavor Wheel –

Nick Cutro joins us as we talk about extending the flavor wheel.

thecigarauthority.com

 

[burge]

I made a post on tobacco tastes it was good basic and can go with it.